TruSTART looks to level the playing field. - Page 4

Mark Yacavone · 02-05-2016, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

No one said it did Bruce, at least not yet.

Yeah ,don't get excited yet ,anybody.
You know where this is going in a year or two don't you?

Ed Wright · 02-05-2016, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rognelson777

Ed, read your quote again, fast guys will be against, and how many things in drag racing are not implemented, even though it is the right thing to do.

Why are they doing, dwindling car counts in bracket races,

I re-read it. I wrote the fast cars won't like loosing that advantage. First car leaving goes red, they win. Why would they want that taken away? What did I not get right? Faster cars won't like that change. Right?

7423 · 02-05-2016, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I re-read it. I wrote the fast cars won't like loosing that advantage. First car leaving goes red, they win. Why would they want that taken away? What did I not get right? Faster cars won't like that change. Right?

You said it correctly Ed, and yes, the faster cars pilot will whine. It takes away the mental advantage they think they have. It will be a tough sell to the stk/ss crowd yet the bracket racers will embrace it with thanks and much appreciation. Shoe polish is the great equalizer.

Casey Miles · 02-06-2016, 01:36 AM

I applaud Kyle and Peter for starting an innovation that should have been in place years ago. There is no reason that a faster car should get the nod because the first car leaves a red light on. In fairness, both should have to hit the tree and may the better man win.

Casey Miles
248H Stock

GTX JOHN · 02-06-2016, 05:19 AM

Casey: I am with you on this one.

This is the most interesting change proposed since we changed from
1/2 Second brackets to a dial in ( Mid 60s out West).

Not reallyto our personal advantage at our home bracket races....but a fair change for
everyone.

We dial our cars at absolutely the bottom allowed in Sportsman Bracket.........
We win the LVMS track championship more years than not = because of the
advantage of leaving last (Always chasing does not hurt either)......But it is high time to level the field and make it fair for everyone. I am not saying it is a Giant advantage but where the racer are all pretty evenly
matched......by the end of a 12 race series it is often enough to make the difference!

Our track car count has been dropping like a rock in Sportsman the last
few years as competitors notice the top 5 in points looks like a 12.0 Index
Class every year.

We used to have 40 or 50 cars or more often at the dozen track points meets in Sportsman at one of the nicest track in the country.....Now a Dozen
low 12 Cars are often all that is there. It is not economically possible
to run a big expensive tracklike LVMS on that Amount of car count.

Billy Nees · 02-06-2016, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Guys with the real fast cars that always leave last won't like losing that advantage. I honestly can't see how anyone could really say it's wrong..

Just the thought of it gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside. I must be getting old.

Jack Foshee · 02-06-2016, 09:25 AM

First OR worst Long overdue, hope it gets adopted

MR DERBY CITY · 02-06-2016, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Just the thought of it gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside. I must be getting old.

A lot of racers with FAST cars and fatter wallets were squirming in their chairs upon hearing this news.

MikeMoller · 02-06-2016, 12:47 PM

Just a thought, but rather than delay the red lights just don't show them on handicap starts. After both cars have finished the run, display the proper win light. This would promote full run racing, might be less confusing for the fans and better entertainment. The announcer can always explain that win/loss based on reaction time.

Andys dad · 02-06-2016, 01:24 PM

Good idea I like it -

I wonder since you are in favor of eliminating the "first" rule why not the "worst" rule - from the "first or worst"

You both lose - I am sure I will be told what is wrong with that.

I see nothing wrong - you both left early and you should both be out.

Go ahead - unload on that idea.

Means no competitor moves on - if it is a final round there is no winner - now it really gets complicated to go back to semis or "divi" up points and money.

So what - you red lit - you lose

I am entitled to my humble opinion

02-06-2016, 01:36 AM	#34
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 692 Likes: 119 Liked 445 Times in 83 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. I applaud Kyle and Peter for starting an innovation that should have been in place years ago. There is no reason that a faster car should get the nod because the first car leaves a red light on. In fairness, both should have to hit the tree and may the better man win. Casey Miles 248H Stock

02-06-2016, 05:19 AM	#35
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,530 Likes: 2,222 Liked 1,809 Times in 572 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. Casey: I am with you on this one. This is the most interesting change proposed since we changed from 1/2 Second brackets to a dial in ( Mid 60s out West). Not reallyto our personal advantage at our home bracket races....but a fair change for everyone. We dial our cars at absolutely the bottom allowed in Sportsman Bracket......... We win the LVMS track championship more years than not = because of the advantage of leaving last (Always chasing does not hurt either)......But it is high time to level the field and make it fair for everyone. I am not saying it is a Giant advantage but where the racer are all pretty evenly matched......by the end of a 12 race series it is often enough to make the difference! Our track car count has been dropping like a rock in Sportsman the last few years as competitors notice the top 5 in points looks like a 12.0 Index Class every year. We used to have 40 or 50 cars or more often at the dozen track points meets in Sportsman at one of the nicest track in the country.....Now a Dozen low 12 Cars are often all that is there. It is not economically possible to run a big expensive tracklike LVMS on that Amount of car count. __________________ John Irving 741 Stock 741 Super Stock Last edited by GTX JOHN; 02-06-2016 at 05:25 AM.

02-06-2016, 09:25 AM	#37
Jack Foshee Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 45 Likes: 99 Liked 11 Times in 5 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. First OR worst Long overdue, hope it gets adopted

02-06-2016, 12:47 PM	#39
MikeMoller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 626 Likes: 27 Liked 242 Times in 72 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. Just a thought, but rather than delay the red lights just don't show them on handicap starts. After both cars have finished the run, display the proper win light. This would promote full run racing, might be less confusing for the fans and better entertainment. The announcer can always explain that win/loss based on reaction time. __________________ Mike Moller NHRA 203 Q-R-T/SA

02-06-2016, 01:24 PM	#40
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: TruSTART looks to level the playing field. Good idea I like it - I wonder since you are in favor of eliminating the "first" rule why not the "worst" rule - from the "first or worst" You both lose - I am sure I will be told what is wrong with that. I see nothing wrong - you both left early and you should both be out. Go ahead - unload on that idea. Means no competitor moves on - if it is a final round there is no winner - now it really gets complicated to go back to semis or "divi" up points and money. So what - you red lit - you lose I am entitled to my humble opinion __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham