AMC Stocker suggestions - Page 4

pfordamx · 05-05-2019, 11:05 PM

unless its changed this year due to some factoring the 1970 360 4bl is a really good Super stock combination currently with only a 260hp rating i know a couple of people who are building this combo.

Mark Yacavone · 05-05-2019, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by typhoon

Thanks again . Not giving up on AMC but I'm going to enter into bracket racing to start. found an S10 cheap only needs motor. I have an AMC at home but cannot be used for stock racing,it'll just be a cruiser. I have found a 74 hornet wagon 232 6cyl. The way I read the chart, rating factor is 19.33 T/SA ?? 14.40 et. i would have to get around 200HP to achieve this . I think could be done. but you need to make car run up 1 second under index to be competitive ? the car can easily become a 304 or 360 as well. so I guess i have to move to another section for bracket advice.
thanks again Gentlemen
I did read a good quote " Enjoy the ride there is no return ticket" George Carlin.

Pay attention here.. 232, 1v? No.... 258, 2v..Yes..Only way to go here, with your budget.
74 -77 Hornet ..Looks the same to me. Nobody knows. Nobody cares.
Several guys here are very familiar with this combo.You already got the basic blueprint.
Go..

HP HUNTER · 05-08-2019, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pfordamx

unless its changed this year due to some factoring the 1970 360 4bl is a really good Super stock combination currently with only a 260hp rating i know a couple of people who are building this combo.

Dwight pointed out some facts on a 1970 360 combination in stock, I was surprised. Should make great power.

1. Big Bore
2. Good amount of lift
3. Lots of head flow

Tom Goldman · 05-08-2019, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Pay attention here.. 232, 1v? No.... 258, 2v..Yes..Only way to go here, with your budget.
74 -77 Hornet ..Looks the same to me. Nobody knows. Nobody cares.
Several guys here are very familiar with this combo.You already got the basic blueprint.
Go..

Mark is correct , the '77 258 IS the best reasonably low dollar combination to build .
I've got quite a bit of experience with all the AMC combos,but the '77 258 is a very affordable build that ran run well without high dollar converters or transmissions or suspensions.

The BBD 2bbl carb is very workable , the cam and blueprint specs are very favorable.
A smart builder can run more than a couple tenth's under the index with cast Badger pistons , $100 rings ,stock rods and without doing anything to the head but the valvejob.
The 232 1 bbl combination is a looser dont waste time or money .

pfordamx · 05-17-2019, 01:53 PM

What do you guys thank about a 79 2 door concord with a 258 2bl and a 904 torqueflight asking because we have the car and alot of the basic pieces to get it going.

Mark Yacavone · 05-17-2019, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pfordamx

What do you guys thank about a 79 2 door concord with a 258 2bl and a 904 torqueflight asking because we have the car and alot of the basic pieces to get it going.

It's okay ..Makes U/SA , which is still a V8 class. Not enough heads-up around to worry about though. All the previous details still apply.

pfordamx · 05-17-2019, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

It's okay ..Makes U/SA , which is still a V8 class. Not enough heads-up around to worry about though. All the previous details still apply.

14.85 doesn't seem like it would be too terribly hard to hit. could be underestimating the task though.

Mark Yacavone · 05-17-2019, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pfordamx

14.85 doesn't seem like it would be too terribly hard to hit. could be underestimating the task though.

You have to be able to run that in the middle of summer. You don't want to leave too much on the table due to budget constraints.
Not fun , nor economical to have to worry about running the index all the time.

jmantle · 05-17-2019, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

You have to be able to run that in the middle of summer. You don't want to leave too much on the table due to budget constraints.
Not fun , nor economical to have to worry about running the index all the time.

I've run 13.90's at U weight in good air, .600 under is not hard to do with a 258 2 bbl 77 or 79 trim in U. I think the 79 pistons more than make up for losing .008 in cam lift.
Ideally find something heavy enough to run V.

Jim Mantle 6632 V/SA

pfordamx · 05-18-2019, 11:17 AM

didn't there used to be a cam lift rule that allowed all cars under x amount of lift to go use x amount of lift.

05-05-2019, 11:05 PM	#31
pfordamx Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 214 Likes: 3 Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: AMC Stocker suggestions unless its changed this year due to some factoring the 1970 360 4bl is a really good Super stock combination currently with only a 260hp rating i know a couple of people who are building this combo.

05-17-2019, 01:53 PM	#35
pfordamx Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 214 Likes: 3 Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: AMC Stocker suggestions What do you guys thank about a 79 2 door concord with a 258 2bl and a 904 torqueflight asking because we have the car and alot of the basic pieces to get it going.

05-18-2019, 11:17 AM	#40
pfordamx Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 214 Likes: 3 Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: AMC Stocker suggestions didn't there used to be a cam lift rule that allowed all cars under x amount of lift to go use x amount of lift.