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Old 12-06-2011, 12:42 PM   #71
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After reading"HOW TO USE THIS RULEBOOK" ,what I got out of it was in short is "just because it doesn't say you can't,doesn't mean you can."
You have got it right.

Now for a history lesson. The following is copied word for word from the oldest NHRA rulebook that I own, the 1961 NHRA rulebook;

"The Competition and Safety Regulations contained in this book are presented in a POSITIVE MANNER; that is, whenever possible each permissible option or class requirement has been listed. UNLESS THE CLASS REQUIREMENT OR SAFETY REGULATIONS SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT A MODIFICATION OR OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT IS PERMISSIBLE, IT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED."

With this I can only verify that this statement is at least fifty years old. Beyond that, I cannot say.

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Old 12-06-2011, 01:37 PM   #72
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so, now what...
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:14 PM   #73
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If you look hard, you can see that is is bolt on.but are you allowed to weld that brace in? that's the question
Kelly, I dont think that would fly as a bolt on sway bar. The large piece of rec tubing is what will get you bounced. There is a huge difference in "plating" a piece of wheel house or frame and what you are showing here. But, you never know. I wouldnt want to be the guinea pig on that one!

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Old 12-06-2011, 02:23 PM   #74
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Kelly, I dont think that would fly as a bolt on sway bar. The large piece of rec tubing is what will get you bounced. There is a huge difference in "plating" a piece of wheel house or frame and what you are showing here. But, you never know. I wouldnt want to be the guinea pig on that one!

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Old 12-06-2011, 02:27 PM   #75
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You have got it right.

Now for a history lesson. The following is copied word for word from the oldest NHRA rulebook that I own, the 1961 NHRA rulebook;

"The Competition and Safety Regulations contained in this book are presented in a POSITIVE MANNER; that is, whenever possible each permissible option or class requirement has been listed. UNLESS THE CLASS REQUIREMENT OR SAFETY REGULATIONS SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT A MODIFICATION OR OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT IS PERMISSIBLE, IT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED."

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Travis, that is the way I remembered it worded, tried to show it to a young man a while back, but it's not in there now. Don't know why they would change it. Makes it pretty clear.
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:39 PM   #76
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It is still there Ed. It now refers to "optional performance equipment or performance-related modification."

In the 2011 NHRA Rulebook, see the third paragraph in HOW TO USE THIS RULEBOOK on page xv in the front of the book.

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P.S. This is a good time to also to point out another paragraph in that section of the NHRA rulebook. It states on page xvi as follows;

"Unauthorized cars, parts, and/or equipment will not be considered approved by reason of having passed through technical inspection at any time, or any number of times. Moreover, having passed through technical inspection at any time, or any number of times, is not a defense to a violation found on further inspection."
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:54 PM   #77
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Btw, my throttle body air bypass hole is still plugged. :-)
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:01 PM   #78
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so, now what...

For one thing,I'm thinking there might be less tech articles about Stock Eliminator on the internet.

If it wasn't on Competition Plus,I doubt anybody would have known about it.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:06 PM   #79
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It reminds me of the Evan Smith article in National Dragster when he installed an aluminium chunk in his 9".
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:30 PM   #80
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FWIW (Not Much)

Back a few years when starting the build on my Camaro looked into this. Spoke to S&W was told the anti-roll bar was approved, had to remove the stock fuel tank. At that time did not want a fuel cell and was more interested in what AppleTree Engineering offered.

http://www.swracecars.com/store/Anti...25=40-613.aspx

The ad seems to assure/infer that it is approved for Stock.
Would think that with this thread and comments from tech officials Scott would be looking into this. Am sure he would not want to put any of his customers in jeopardy.
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