Question for the big wheelstand guys

Joe Grippo · 05-08-2007, 01:43 PM

Question for the big wheelstand guys?Other than a normal nut and bolt examination and a suspension check, what other types of things do you look at on a regular basis? I have been hanging the wheels pretty high recently and I don?t want to overlook anything during my weekly maintenance. I have been looking at ball joints, upper and lower a-arms, engine and accessory bolts etc. Any other suggestions?

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Stephen J · 05-08-2007, 01:55 PM

Wheels, we bent a set a couple of years ago.

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Tom Goldman · 05-08-2007, 05:30 PM

Make sure your snubbers are up to par, When I started getting big air this year ,I put a set of heavy duty urethane snubbers on the control arms. .... keep an eye on the front shocks too. ... They don't like getting bottomed out. ..... Tom

05-08-2007, 06:33 PM

ON My Firebird it was bad about tearing the inner fenderwells out when it came down, so i cut the very tops of them out and it stopped that problem, but it is also bad on front end alignment by coming down so hard, need to keep the compression on the shocks pretty stiff and of coarse the wheelie bars have saved my mutt quite a few times and even with them sometimes it is pretty violate!

woodro josey
I miss Buster Couch and Lex Dudas.

Tim Barrett · 05-08-2007, 07:28 PM

If I can ask,,What have you guys done to help yank the wheels up higher?? A few years ago if a Stocker could get the tires off the ground they were doing great. Now it seems that alot or most of the guys are in need of wheelie bars. I can get mine about a foot in the air but thats it. Most of the time less. But my suspension isnt very fancy. Moroso front springs with Lakewood 90-10 and the back are multi-leaf with lakewood traction bars and Comp. engineering rear. Got any ideas on changes for me?? Tim Barrett H/SA 1925

Brian Holcombe · 05-08-2007, 09:23 PM

Tim,
what kind of car do you have?

how quick do you 60ft now?

Geerhead55 · 05-08-2007, 10:34 PM

Brian,,, Tim has a 69 Camaro. You can see the car launching on Autoimagery.com.
Danny Durham

Bruce Fulper · 05-09-2007, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Make sure your snubbers are up to par, When I started getting big air this year ,I put a set of heavy duty urethane snubbers on the control arms. .... keep an eye on the front shocks too. ... They don't like getting bottomed out. ..... Tom

hahaha...I GOT to see that "vair getting "big air." !
I love your car - don't get me wrong. but "big air"?

I miss step.

Tom Goldman · 05-09-2007, 05:12 PM

You missed the Man after the Gold., not Gould. .... I'd like to see Tom's Corvair get some air!. .... Tom Goldman

Chris Hill · 05-09-2007, 06:04 PM

"If I can ask,,What have you guys done to help yank the wheels up higher?? "

I don't mean to be fllipant with my response, but just simply more hp being applied to the ground is causing the big wheelstands.

It seems on a stocker, once your et dips into the 10 second range, the ability for the big wheelstand is possible. It is the car trying to accelerate that causes the wheelstand. If you bolted the rear tires to the ground, i don't think you could lift the front wheels off the ground (it's been a long time since I calculated it).

On our 'cuda, we were breaking in a new engine in March at Bowling Greene, Ky. The previous year it was running roughly low 11's at the time. The first time I made a real pass in the car, it got so high I had the sensation of falling over backwards in a chair and luckly shifted from 1st to 3rd to bring it down without crashing it. This was way before stockers were allowed wheelie bars. We changed the front shocks and did not have any issues after that. The car would've went roughly a 10.80 pass if I remember correctly.

Chris Hill
Spec 125 Light

05-08-2007, 01:43 PM	#1
Joe Grippo Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Elverson, Pa Posts: 157 Likes: 100 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Question for the big wheelstand guys Question for the big wheelstand guys?Other than a normal nut and bolt examination and a suspension check, what other types of things do you look at on a regular basis? I have been hanging the wheels pretty high recently and I don?t want to overlook anything during my weekly maintenance. I have been looking at ball joints, upper and lower a-arms, engine and accessory bolts etc. Any other suggestions? Wanna see some pictures? http://public.fotki.com/JoeGrippo/ __________________ Time Wasters....http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_grippo/sets/ http://www.youtube.com/user/JoeGrippo?feature=mhum

05-08-2007, 05:30 PM	#3
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,436 Likes: 776 Liked 700 Times in 204 Posts	Make sure your snubbers are up to par, When I started getting big air this year ,I put a set of heavy duty urethane snubbers on the control arms. .... keep an eye on the front shocks too. ... They don't like getting bottomed out. ..... Tom __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

05-09-2007, 05:12 PM	#9
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,436 Likes: 776 Liked 700 Times in 204 Posts	You missed the Man after the Gold., not Gould. .... I'd like to see Tom's Corvair get some air!. .... Tom Goldman __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

05-09-2007, 06:04 PM	#10
Chris Hill Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 653 Likes: 8 Liked 238 Times in 25 Posts	"If I can ask,,What have you guys done to help yank the wheels up higher?? " I don't mean to be fllipant with my response, but just simply more hp being applied to the ground is causing the big wheelstands. It seems on a stocker, once your et dips into the 10 second range, the ability for the big wheelstand is possible. It is the car trying to accelerate that causes the wheelstand. If you bolted the rear tires to the ground, i don't think you could lift the front wheels off the ground (it's been a long time since I calculated it). On our 'cuda, we were breaking in a new engine in March at Bowling Greene, Ky. The previous year it was running roughly low 11's at the time. The first time I made a real pass in the car, it got so high I had the sensation of falling over backwards in a chair and luckly shifted from 1st to 3rd to bring it down without crashing it. This was way before stockers were allowed wheelie bars. We changed the front shocks and did not have any issues after that. The car would've went roughly a 10.80 pass if I remember correctly. Chris Hill Spec 125 Light __________________ Chris Hill https://ihmusedparts.com

05-08-2007, 01:55 PM	#2
Stephen J Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Gadsden Posts: 16 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wheels, we bent a set a couple of years ago. Stephen Johnson #2162 Horace Johnson #2167 SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA Ex-Jim Van Cleve Stephen 2162 Horace2167

05-08-2007, 06:33 PM	#4
LILWJ Guest Posts: n/a	ON My Firebird it was bad about tearing the inner fenderwells out when it came down, so i cut the very tops of them out and it stopped that problem, but it is also bad on front end alignment by coming down so hard, need to keep the compression on the shocks pretty stiff and of coarse the wheelie bars have saved my mutt quite a few times and even with them sometimes it is pretty violate! woodro josey I miss Buster Couch and Lex Dudas.

05-08-2007, 07:28 PM	#5
Tim Barrett Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Fort Ann New York State Posts: 126 Likes: 742 Liked 329 Times in 59 Posts	If I can ask,,What have you guys done to help yank the wheels up higher?? A few years ago if a Stocker could get the tires off the ground they were doing great. Now it seems that alot or most of the guys are in need of wheelie bars. I can get mine about a foot in the air but thats it. Most of the time less. But my suspension isnt very fancy. Moroso front springs with Lakewood 90-10 and the back are multi-leaf with lakewood traction bars and Comp. engineering rear. Got any ideas on changes for me?? Tim Barrett H/SA 1925

05-08-2007, 09:23 PM	#6
Brian Holcombe Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hamilton NJ Posts: 68 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tim, what kind of car do you have? how quick do you 60ft now?

05-08-2007, 10:34 PM	#7
Geerhead55 VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 1,632 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Brian,,, Tim has a 69 Camaro. You can see the car launching on Autoimagery.com. Danny Durham