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Old 02-07-2016, 04:17 PM   #11
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We've run , and worn out aluminum stuff. I don't think it is worth the extra money , unless you'r looking for that last bit to qualify at that 1 race of the year, and you bump the launch to 8 grand.
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Were you running aluminum flywheels with riveted on steel heat shields, or running non replaceable surfaces? Both my cars use McLeod Soft Lok clutches with aluminum flywheels, and I normally go 2 full seasons between clutch rebuilds, which includes replacing the heat shields on the flywheels and pressure plates. With the M/Stock combo, I did try a 25 lb steel flywheel for a while, but the aluminum flywheel was always faster, (unless you had too much clutch, and pulled the engine RPM down too much), plus you only get so many grinds out of a steel flywheel, where the aluminum flywheel can have the head shields replaced over & over. Neither of my cars have ever seen 7000 RPM on launch, let alone 8 grand. Normally I launch either car between 5800-6600 RPM, depending on combo and conditions.
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Old 02-07-2016, 05:40 PM   #12
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[QUOTE=tj310;494822]We've run , and worn out aluminum stuff. I don't think it is worth the extra money , unless you'r looking for that last bit to qualify at that 1 race of the year, and you bump the launch to 8 grand.
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If you have any questions about this process feel free to email me at jimschaechter@earthlink.net. Unless a .10-.15 isnt something you are looking for. Something is wrong with the set up and or driving if you lunch aluminum stuff and aren't at least going quicker. Probably slipping way too much. Trust me, if you ever get a good way to evaluate this. ( like a racepak set up) you can quickly dial it in and it will be quicker all of the time and not beat up stuff.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:43 PM   #13
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The easy no brainer way out is the McLeod stuff and is right for 95% of all guys running a stick car. However, Merc and and I go for the gusto and wouldn't run this unit in anything that you want the last couple of hundreths out of.

If you want the ultimate stuff ya gotta go to Westcott. Cost a few bucks more but it does so much more...that is if you know how to read your racepak!
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Old 02-07-2016, 11:48 PM   #14
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If you want to go rounds get a Mcleod. Reference Brad Z check his elimination record the past 6-7 years or longer.
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:24 AM   #15
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All true about the McLeod stuff for sure but I failed to mention the Westcott/L&T style stuff will go rounds too without constant adjustment.

The real secret is picking the sweet spot by reading the Racepak during Q sessions and then hanging in there when it comes time to race. We rarely change anything for first round and I doubt Brad does either something indicates it really needs to be adjusted to retain consistency and or to be fairly certain it will go the 7 rounds.

I'll take the go fast clutch (a far lighter and smaller unit than a McLeod) that will also go rounds every time-but hey-it's where ever your comfort and wallet level will allow you to go. Like I said the McLeod stuff is right for 95% handicap stick cars and would never be a bad choice for sure- although you will never see one of these types of clutches in any fast Comp or PS car, and it's not because they have the luxury of pulling it out and servicing it between rounds.
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All true about the McLeod stuff for sure but I failed to mention the Westcott/L&T style stuff will go rounds too without constant adjustment.

The real secret is picking the sweet spot by reading the Racepak during Q sessions and then hanging in there when it comes time to race. We rarely change anything for first round and I doubt Brad does either something indicates it really needs to be adjusted to retain consistency and or to be fairly certain it will go the 7 rounds.

I'll take the go fast clutch (a far lighter and smaller unit than a McLeod) that will also go rounds every time-but hey-it's where ever your comfort and wallet level will allow you to go. Like I said the McLeod stuff is right for 95% handicap stick cars and would never be a bad choice for sure- although you will never see one of these types of clutches in any fast Comp or PS car, and it's not because they have the luxury of pulling it out and servicing it between rounds.

Bingo! Most valuable comment in the thread. Solid Gold for a clutchless car. Want more ET... Come back here re-read this post. Racepak and L&T style clutch required.
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