"Stock-Look" Stockers

Mike Schwartz · 04-11-2017, 11:12 PM

I know I'm going to get flack for this, but I'd wish they would do away with contingency decals and custom paint on Stockers. Only make/model/year appropriate factory paint and decals, chrome, black or body matching wheels, driver name & numbers on the windows, a few series decals and that's it.

Dan Cyr's orange Camaro that leads off the Some Vegas Pics thread is absolutely perfect.Same with Jeff Lindstrom's white Mustang, Billy Cremo's black Camaro, Dennis Alvey's turquoise Mustang, Leo Glasbrenner's red Firebird, etc

I think spectators would rather see cars that look like those than the rolling refrigerator doors and bulletin boards we have now. Do they even care what the decals say? Do they influence them to buy the same parts for their own cars? I think they just advertise to other racers these days. It shouldn't be hard to come up with a different way for manufacturers tp pay for the publicity they receive for associating with a winning car and driver. (I guess sponsorship lettering, limited to a 3ft x1ft space on the quarters, might not distract from the intended appearance package.)

TommyPettigrew3076 · 04-12-2017, 12:37 AM

You have obviously not ever won a National or Division race ..lol Those contigency checks that come in the mail sure looked good in my bank account when I won ...lol and these are race cars not street cars. If you want " Stock " looking cars go to the local bracket night at a track and watch the street class run.

Mike Schwartz · 04-12-2017, 02:25 AM

I didn't mean eliminate contingency postings, just work out a way where you don't need decals on the car. Decals are just advertisements, and free ones at that, for a company that won't even compensate you for displaying them unless you make the final round (or semis, or win class, at certain events) . They usually aren't even proof that you use the product. You still have to provide proofs of purchase or pass a visual inspection.

It would be interesting to research what percentage of drivers in Stock actually earned contingency awards in 2016.

Larry Hill · 04-12-2017, 06:37 AM

I ask a friend of mine why his car was absent of all contingency stickers? His answer: I can afford to race. And that was that.

nhramnl · 04-12-2017, 07:18 AM

Couldn't have said it better, Larry. Agree 100 percent.

ALMACK · 04-12-2017, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

I know I'm going to get flack for this, but I'd wish they would do away with contingency decals and custom paint on Stockers. Only make/model/year appropriate factory paint and decals, chrome, black or body matching wheels, driver name & numbers on the windows, a few series decals and that's it.

Dan Cyr's orange Camaro that leads off the Some Vegas Pics thread is absolutely perfect.Same with Jeff Lindstrom's white Mustang, Billy Cremo's black Camaro, Dennis Alvey's turquoise Mustang, Leo Glasbrenner's red Firebird, etc

I think spectators would rather see cars that look like those than the rolling refrigerator doors and bulletin boards we have now. Do they even care what the decals say? Do they influence them to buy the same parts for their own cars? I think they just advertise to other racers these days. It shouldn't be hard to come up with a different way for manufacturers tp pay for the publicity they receive for associating with a winning car and driver. (I guess sponsorship lettering, limited to a 3ft x1ft space on the quarters, might not distract from the intended appearance package.)

Like these ?

jimi · 04-12-2017, 10:34 AM

like this

Jim Caughlin · 04-12-2017, 10:40 AM

In my case racing a manual transmission 4 cylinder Ford pretty much means that there is virtually no conting money to be had regardless so my car is pretty much bare when it comes to decals. I'm sure not going to run decals that don't pay. Companies that claim to pay and don't is another issue that I won't get into.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

Casey Miles · 04-12-2017, 02:35 PM

My Stocker looks like it came from the showroom, full exhaust with chrome tips, windshield wipers and radio and antenna. Racing wheels are the only give away. In the past I put on decals but now I don't put stickers on it because the manufacturers these days make you jump through hoops, they use every excuse not to pay. Back in the 70's, they gave you everything under the sun to put their decal on the cars. Just my take on Stock.

Casey Miles
248H Stock

Timetraveler · 04-12-2017, 07:40 PM

The interest picked up in drag racing when you could tell the difference between a race car and a street car. It wasn't big company stickers it was the local gas station or corner store. Race cars also had names and people in the stands would remember them and follow them.

If you have not figured it out I started racing more than fifty years ago and I hope to race another fifty.

04-11-2017, 11:12 PM	#1
Mike Schwartz Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 497 Likes: 98 Liked 192 Times in 65 Posts	"Stock-Look" Stockers I know I'm going to get flack for this, but I'd wish they would do away with contingency decals and custom paint on Stockers. Only make/model/year appropriate factory paint and decals, chrome, black or body matching wheels, driver name & numbers on the windows, a few series decals and that's it. Dan Cyr's orange Camaro that leads off the Some Vegas Pics thread is absolutely perfect.Same with Jeff Lindstrom's white Mustang, Billy Cremo's black Camaro, Dennis Alvey's turquoise Mustang, Leo Glasbrenner's red Firebird, etc I think spectators would rather see cars that look like those than the rolling refrigerator doors and bulletin boards we have now. Do they even care what the decals say? Do they influence them to buy the same parts for their own cars? I think they just advertise to other racers these days. It shouldn't be hard to come up with a different way for manufacturers tp pay for the publicity they receive for associating with a winning car and driver. (I guess sponsorship lettering, limited to a 3ft x1ft space on the quarters, might not distract from the intended appearance package.)

04-12-2017, 12:37 AM	#2
TommyPettigrew3076 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fishers Indiana Posts: 55 Likes: 8 Liked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Re: "Stock-Look" Stockers You have obviously not ever won a National or Division race ..lol Those contigency checks that come in the mail sure looked good in my bank account when I won ...lol and these are race cars not street cars. If you want " Stock " looking cars go to the local bracket night at a track and watch the street class run.

04-12-2017, 02:25 AM	#3
Mike Schwartz Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 497 Likes: 98 Liked 192 Times in 65 Posts	Re: "Stock-Look" Stockers I didn't mean eliminate contingency postings, just work out a way where you don't need decals on the car. Decals are just advertisements, and free ones at that, for a company that won't even compensate you for displaying them unless you make the final round (or semis, or win class, at certain events) . They usually aren't even proof that you use the product. You still have to provide proofs of purchase or pass a visual inspection. It would be interesting to research what percentage of drivers in Stock actually earned contingency awards in 2016.

04-12-2017, 06:37 AM	#4
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,277 Likes: 1,635 Liked 9,453 Times in 1,956 Posts	Re: "Stock-Look" Stockers I ask a friend of mine why his car was absent of all contingency stickers? His answer: I can afford to race. And that was that. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

04-12-2017, 07:18 AM	#5
nhramnl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 504 Likes: 7 Liked 352 Times in 82 Posts	Re: "Stock-Look" Stockers Couldn't have said it better, Larry. Agree 100 percent.

04-12-2017, 10:34 AM	#7
jimi Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 239 Likes: 7 Liked 21 Times in 8 Posts	Re: "Stock-Look" Stockers like this Attached Thumbnails

04-12-2017, 10:40 AM	#8
Jim Caughlin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Woodburn, Or Posts: 635 Likes: 70 Liked 693 Times in 208 Posts	Re: "Stock-Look" Stockers In my case racing a manual transmission 4 cylinder Ford pretty much means that there is virtually no conting money to be had regardless so my car is pretty much bare when it comes to decals. I'm sure not going to run decals that don't pay. Companies that claim to pay and don't is another issue that I won't get into. Jim Caughlin SS 6019

04-12-2017, 02:35 PM	#9
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 692 Likes: 119 Liked 445 Times in 83 Posts	Re: "Stock-Look" Stockers My Stocker looks like it came from the showroom, full exhaust with chrome tips, windshield wipers and radio and antenna. Racing wheels are the only give away. In the past I put on decals but now I don't put stickers on it because the manufacturers these days make you jump through hoops, they use every excuse not to pay. Back in the 70's, they gave you everything under the sun to put their decal on the cars. Just my take on Stock. Casey Miles 248H Stock

04-12-2017, 07:40 PM	#10
Timetraveler Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 103 Likes: 79 Liked 12 Times in 6 Posts	Re: "Stock-Look" Stockers The interest picked up in drag racing when you could tell the difference between a race car and a street car. It wasn't big company stickers it was the local gas station or corner store. Race cars also had names and people in the stands would remember them and follow them. If you have not figured it out I started racing more than fifty years ago and I hope to race another fifty.