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Old 12-08-2014, 01:11 PM   #1
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Has anyone seen or heard if the falling of oil prices has effected racing fuel prices?
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:12 PM   #2
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Regular is $2.39 here, diesel is $3.19, I'm betting VP has not gone down.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:22 PM   #3
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Has anyone seen or heard if the falling of oil prices has effected racing fuel prices?
My guess is it will stay the same or go up! What are we going to do buy it somewhere else? LOL!
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Old 12-08-2014, 04:34 PM   #4
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Saw regular unleaded for 2.21 this morning. Diesel was still 3.49. Why is Diesel not dropping like unleaded?
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Old 12-08-2014, 04:50 PM   #5
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Saw regular unleaded for 2.21 this morning. Diesel was still 3.49. Why is Diesel not dropping like unleaded?
My limited knowledge of the wonderful world of Oil processing goes a bit like this:

worldwide Supply and Demand #1, We cook it and export it for the $, costs more to make than gas now due to EPA required formulations, and taxes.

There is also a seasonal capacity issue with home heating oil taking up capacity.

Something like 90 something percent of oil processed is for standard gas here is US.

I copied a government source's info down below.

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Why Diesel Costs More Than Gasoline
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Diesel fuel had traditionally been less expensive than gasoline, since it was easier to refine from crude oil. However, beginning in 2004, retail diesel fuel prices have consistently been higher than retail gasoline prices. There are several reasons why.

Seasonality is one factor that had always affected diesel fuel prices. Diesel fuel, also known as number 2 distillate, is essentially the same as home heating oil (the major difference is that diesel fuel contains less sulfur). In colder winters when home heating oil is in more demand, diesel prices typically climbed faster than those for gasoline.

Also, beginning in September, gas demand declines, but diesel fuel demand increases as more diesel fuel is required for the machinery to harvest and transport crops.

(There are some differences between the more common distillate fuels. Off-road diesel, intended for farm machinery and other non-transportation purposes, is dyed red to distinguish it from on-road diesel, which has both state and federal transportation taxes. Home heating oil is very similar to both diesel fuels but contains more particulates, which would damage a sensitive diesel engine if used in a vehicle.)

While seasonality has long played a role in demand, the more recent change in market dynamics, where diesel fuel is consistently more than gasoline, is a function of several broad factors.

Strong Diesel Fuel Demand in Other Countries
The United States is a gasoline-dominant motor fuels market. Approximately 98% of passenger vehicles in the United States are powered by gasoline, with fewer than 2% powered by diesel fuel. Consequently, the refining infrastructure is designed for optimum efficiency in producing gasoline. From a typical 42-gallon barrel of oil, the refining process delivers around 18 to 21 gallons of gasoline and 10 to 12 gallons of distillate, plus some other refined products. Refinery yields can somewhat be tweaked, but to produce significantly more distillate, they would need to undergo significant upgrades costing billions of dollars.

While the U.S. remains predominantly reliant on gasoline, other countries throughout the world are more heavily reliant on diesel fuel. Diesel fuel is used in the majority of new passenger vehicles in Europe. Strong international demand for diesel fuel €" for both passenger vehicles and for industrial machinery in the rapidly growing developing countries like China and India €" has placed a premium on diesel fuel imports.

U.S. Diesel Demand Increasing While Gasoline Demand Decreases
While U.S. gasoline demand has decreased since peaking in 2007, demand for diesel fuel has remained strong. Diesel fuel powers most of the country's buses, trucks, trains and farm equipment. It also powers an increasing number of passenger vehicles. U.S. clean diesel vehicle sales increased 25.6% in 2012, almost double the overall auto market's increase.

More diesel-powered vehicles mean more demand for diesel fuel. Comparing October 2010 demand to that of October 2012, demand for gasoline has decreased 3.4% while demand for on-road diesel fuel has increased 11.8%.

Introduction of Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD)
ULSD is a clean-burning diesel fuel that is defined by the Environmental Protection Agency to have a maximum sulfur content of 15 parts per million (ppm). It was gradually phased into the market between 2006 and 2010, replacing the on-highway diesel fuel, known as Low Sulfur Diesel (LSD), which can have as much as 500 ppm sulfur content. In 2010, on-highway diesel fuel was 100 percent ULSD. ULSD is required for use in model year 2007 and later vehicles, which are equipped with advanced emissions control systems.

There are enormous environmental benefits to ULSD, but there are also logistical challenges. Special care was required when transporting both types of diesel fuel during the transition. This included pipelines, bulk terminals and tankers. A batch of ULSD that has even slight contamination with LSD could lead to significant fines if the batch of ULSD exceeded a certain level. In addition, to produce ULSD the refining industry had to invest approximately $8 billion in infrastructure upgrades and the daily production costs for ULSD are higher than LSD, since the fuel requires more refining. This influences the cost of all diesel and results in a premium for ULSD, which is estimated to add about 10 cents per gallon to the cost of diesel fuel.

Taxes
The final factor in why diesel fuel prices are higher is taxes. The federal tax on diesel fuel is 6 cents more than gasoline per gallon (24.4 cents vs. 18.4 cents). The last increase in the federal tax was in the early 1990s, back when diesel fuel was usually less expensive than gasoline. Taxes do not factor into why diesel fuel prices are higher than gasoline today €" strong demand and USLD are the causes €" but taxes are a factor in overall prices.
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:15 PM   #6
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Sunoco racing pump gas is at $8.50 / gal here in FL. What does Sunoco purple or blue cost now.

I'd be fine if they just let me use regular pump gas.

Here is the oil companies new slogan. "We Want To Pump You Up"

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Old 12-08-2014, 05:29 PM   #7
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most racing fuels are not made from crude oil, chemical based ...

if diesel goes down they will spend less to bring it to us
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:13 PM   #8
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I bought diesel this morni ng for 2.98 in Terrell texas, Bet it won't be that low come first of March
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:20 PM   #9
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Sunoco racing pump gas is at $8.50 / gal here in FL. What does Sunoco purple or blue cost now.

I'd be fine if they just let me use regular pump gas.

Here is the oil companies new slogan. "We Want To Pump You Up"

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Hey Ron, here in NC I get purple from circle track sources for 7.99 gal. But still almost twice as much as the torco days. I miss those days,
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Old 12-09-2014, 04:46 AM   #10
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That's a Fact, Jack! (I always wanted to say that) The price of Racing fuel is tied to the Chemical market prices. Very little base crude is used in racing fuel.
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