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Old 07-13-2016, 07:25 PM   #21
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Default Re: Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar?

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safety for the most part, that image of the duster/demon crash a few years back comes to mind...every bit of cage helps....and lets face it a lot of the race cars are getting a little long in the tooth and can use the additional stiffness, even the lowly Gremlin was slowly twisting itself to the point of concern before its full cage....(pre-this rule, not through firewall)

Just about all of the unibody cars would benefit some more than others. How much it could help ET would be an interesting study.

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Eric, They didn't reverse this long standing rule for the Gremlins out there.
Trust me on this.
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:27 PM   #22
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I give up Mark. Who did they change the rule for?

Are you against the change?
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Old 07-14-2016, 07:45 PM   #23
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"Alterations prohibited unless expressly permitted in this section. Firewall coverings prohibited.Where heater/air conditioning units have been removed, area must be covered with minimum .024-inch steel or .032- inch aluminum, including rear hood seal/flange, as on GM A-body. Minor firewall modifications permitted to C5 and C6 Corvettes for transmission installation. Roll cage tubing may run across top or side of inner fender well/strut tower and attach to frame horn. "

The last sentence has never been made clear (at least not to my knowledge). Does it apply to the corvettes or all stocker?
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Old 07-14-2016, 07:46 PM   #24
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Default Re: Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar?

It applies to all Stockers.
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Old 07-14-2016, 07:48 PM   #25
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I give up Mark. Who did they change the rule for?

Are you against the change?
Got me curious too. If you can't say it on here, send me a pm, I won't tell.
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Old 07-14-2016, 10:20 PM   #27
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Default Re: Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar?

Does anyone have this in writing from NHRA? IF so, could you please share the documentation? It would surely help provide some clarity and that in itself would be cool.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 07-15-2016, 12:47 AM   #28
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Default Re: Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar?

Guys,
Lately we've had a bunch of 8 second "Stockers", along with factory involvement.
Coincidence? Don't believe in them when it comes to NHRA.

Mikey, No , I'm not against this new ruling. If one feels they need a full cage , with front braces in their 12.85 M/SA car, have at it.
But don't make it mandatory , when you've got 11.50 bracket bombers out there with no bar at all.
That's a subject for a different thread though, isn't it?
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Old 07-15-2016, 01:32 PM   #29
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Default Re: Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar?

Marky,
It's not mandatory.

I believe after Ken Etters and Paulas accidents both of which resulted in significant injuries nhra correctly changed this rule.

It allows those racers who wish to add another level of safety to their cars to do so.

I've had my issues with nhra but I believe they got it right here.

Not all rule changes are part of a conspiracy to benefit the new cars.
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Old 07-15-2016, 02:06 PM   #30
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I've had my issues with nhra but I believe they got it right here.

Not all rule changes are part of a conspiracy to benefit the new cars.
Mike -
I agree with you. I have always thought they should have allowed it. I know the bars in the engine compartment can detract from the "stock" look, but their function is too valuable to worry about that.


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