Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar? - Page 2

Bob Mulry · 07-12-2016, 08:21 PM

Hi,

The rule had always been..........

Nothing through the firewall......

I don't think that it would change because a cage was the car.....

A K/SA can run a cage if desired......

Just making Stock into Super Stock and Super Stock into Comp....

Bob

Tom Goldman · 07-12-2016, 09:51 PM

Guys that was amended 10/26/15 to section 10A, section 7 page 23 It is legal to run the bars thru the firewall on the inside or over the top of the inner fender .
However section 4 above it says its not , it has been legal since the start of this season. ....You know NHRA never makes mistakes in the rule book !
I double checked this with Dave Ley before I did any.

Dwight Southerland · 07-12-2016, 11:22 PM

Tom, I looked at the published amendments from mid-2015 and all the publications since then and do not find what you are talking about. In fact, the 10/26/15 amendments are still on the NHRARacer.com site and I do not see that in the document there either.

ss3011 · 07-12-2016, 11:36 PM

Here it is

SECTION 10A: STOCK CARS, BODY:7, FIREWALL (Page 10) (10/26/2015) Alterations prohibited unless expressly permitted in this section. Firewall coverings prohibited. Where heater/air conditioning units have been removed, area must be covered with minimum .024- inch steel or .032-inch aluminum, including rear hood seal/flange, as on GM A-body. Minor firewall modifications permitted to C5 and C6 Corvettes for transmission installation. Roll cage tubing may run across top or side of inner fender well/strut tower and attach to frame horn. See General Regulations 7:4.

Dwight Southerland · 07-13-2016, 08:17 AM

Ahhh! I was stopping at the Roll Bar Section; did not read the Firewall Section. I stand corrected.

Mark Yacavone · 07-13-2016, 09:39 AM

Anyone want to guess why that rule was changed, and who for?

Bob Don · 07-13-2016, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Anyone want to guess why that rule was changed, and who for?

Your Monte Carlo? lol

Eric Merryfield · 07-13-2016, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Anyone want to guess why that rule was changed, and who for?

safety for the most part, that image of the duster/demon crash a few years back comes to mind...every bit of cage helps....and lets face it a lot of the race cars are getting a little long in the tooth and can use the additional stiffness, even the lowly Gremlin was slowly twisting itself to the point of concern before its full cage....(pre-this rule, not through firewall)

Just about all of the unibody cars would benefit some more than others. How much it could help ET would be an interesting study.

Eric

Mark Yacavone · 07-13-2016, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Don

Your Monte Carlo? lol

Maybe some lead filled ones...

GTOMayhem · 07-13-2016, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Maybe some lead filled ones...

^^^^^^^^^^
THIS!

Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

07-12-2016, 08:21 PM	#11
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,017 Likes: 57 Liked 321 Times in 101 Posts	Re: Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar? Hi, The rule had always been.......... Nothing through the firewall...... I don't think that it would change because a cage was the car..... A K/SA can run a cage if desired...... Just making Stock into Super Stock and Super Stock into Comp.... Bob __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

07-12-2016, 09:51 PM	#12
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,436 Likes: 776 Liked 700 Times in 204 Posts	Re: Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar? Guys that was amended 10/26/15 to section 10A, section 7 page 23 It is legal to run the bars thru the firewall on the inside or over the top of the inner fender . However section 4 above it says its not , it has been legal since the start of this season. ....You know NHRA never makes mistakes in the rule book ! I double checked this with Dave Ley before I did any. __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

07-12-2016, 11:22 PM	#13
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,980 Likes: 52 Liked 724 Times in 177 Posts	Re: Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar? Tom, I looked at the published amendments from mid-2015 and all the publications since then and do not find what you are talking about. In fact, the 10/26/15 amendments are still on the NHRARacer.com site and I do not see that in the document there either. __________________

07-12-2016, 11:36 PM	#14
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 885 Likes: 63 Liked 221 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar? Here it is SECTION 10A: STOCK CARS, BODY:7, FIREWALL (Page 10) (10/26/2015) Alterations prohibited unless expressly permitted in this section. Firewall coverings prohibited. Where heater/air conditioning units have been removed, area must be covered with minimum .024- inch steel or .032-inch aluminum, including rear hood seal/flange, as on GM A-body. Minor firewall modifications permitted to C5 and C6 Corvettes for transmission installation. Roll cage tubing may run across top or side of inner fender well/strut tower and attach to frame horn. See General Regulations 7:4.

07-13-2016, 08:17 AM	#15
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,980 Likes: 52 Liked 724 Times in 177 Posts	Re: Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar? Ahhh! I was stopping at the Roll Bar Section; did not read the Firewall Section. I stand corrected. __________________

07-13-2016, 09:39 AM	#16
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,414 Likes: 2,581 Liked 4,447 Times in 1,693 Posts	Re: Tube bars out to front frame on a mopar? Anyone want to guess why that rule was changed, and who for? __________________ We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for..... Will Rogers