Harmonic Balancer

njk53 · 03-27-2009, 08:51 PM

Have any of you guys heard of a PBM Performance Products harmonic balancers?

What kind of quality are they and are they SFI certified?

BillK · 03-28-2009, 06:08 PM

nj,

PBM does have a line of SFI dampers. I am pretty sure they are the same as the Professional Products ones. They seem to be pretty nicely made, but appearances are not everything. I have sold quite a few of the street versions and a couple of the SFI ones, have not heard of any issues. Even though I am a PBM dealer, I would personally be using an ATI on a race engine. Here is a link to thier web site. If you need a price on something let me know.

Alan Roehrich · 03-28-2009, 06:33 PM

The PBM SFI approved balancers I have seen are not Professional Products balancers. The ones I have seen are made by PowerBond. They are not bad for an inexpensive balancer. I would not use one on a true quality race engine. I use ATI on real race engines.

BillK · 03-28-2009, 08:14 PM

Alan,
I think you are correct, just could not think of the proper name

njk53 · 03-28-2009, 08:18 PM

Thanks for the input. The reason I ask is the race car my brother and I bought has one on it and personally, I've never heard of them. I was filling out our tech card and they ask for the balancer make and when I looked the PBM was what we had. The engine is fairly fresh and was built by a well known engine builder. I cannot believe he would use this lower end product because the engine has all good stuff in it. What may have happend was the previous owner may have taken a good unit off and replaced it with a cheapie when he sold the car.

Alan Roehrich · 03-28-2009, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillK

Alan,
I think you are correct, just could not think of the proper name

Professional Products balancers are those goofy red and black ones with rivets. I usually run away when I see one of those. Fast.

Shawn Blair · 03-29-2009, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Professional Products balancers are those goofy red and black ones with rivets. I usually run away when I see one of those. Fast.

I had two of these Professional Products balancer's lose the ring that's riveted on, during chassis dyno pulls it was spectacular having this ring bouncing off the shop wall's. DO NOT BUY THESE BALANCERS!!!!!! or any cheap balancer, you get what you pay for! Shawn

njk53 · 03-29-2009, 06:54 PM

My brother and I decided to replace the PBM Performance Products balancer that we currently have on the car. Our engine has all good stuff in it and I do not want to run the risk of doing any major damage. What bothers me about the whole deal is I looked extensively on the internet and I could not find any solid information regarding it's manufacture and engineering history.
The next question is, what do you recommend as far as a quality balancer? As you can read I have 2 votes for the ATI. Our engine is a 402 CI BB Chevrolet.

Thanks

Alex Denysenko · 03-29-2009, 08:38 PM

PBM is Erson's parent company.
Their balancers are repackaged Power Pond units which are high quality made in Australia.
Both SFI and non SFI street balancers are offered.

http://www.pbm-erson.com/store.php

http://www.precisionparts.com.au/

SGSST109E · 03-29-2009, 09:09 PM

I had an import balancer come apart on me. It bent the nose of the crank, wacked the pan and luck for me it went out and didn't hit a tire at 141mph. ATI from that point on.

03-27-2009, 08:51 PM	#1
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Harmonic Balancer Have any of you guys heard of a PBM Performance Products harmonic balancers? What kind of quality are they and are they SFI certified? __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

03-28-2009, 06:08 PM	#2
BillK Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Waldorf Md Posts: 222 Likes: 10 Liked 26 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Harmonic Balancer nj, PBM does have a line of SFI dampers. I am pretty sure they are the same as the Professional Products ones. They seem to be pretty nicely made, but appearances are not everything. I have sold quite a few of the street versions and a couple of the SFI ones, have not heard of any issues. Even though I am a PBM dealer, I would personally be using an ATI on a race engine. Here is a link to thier web site. If you need a price on something let me know. __________________ Bill Koustenis

03-28-2009, 06:33 PM	#3
Alan Roehrich VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 4,915 Likes: 996 Liked 1,043 Times in 274 Posts	Re: Harmonic Balancer The PBM SFI approved balancers I have seen are not Professional Products balancers. The ones I have seen are made by PowerBond. They are not bad for an inexpensive balancer. I would not use one on a true quality race engine. I use ATI on real race engines. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

03-28-2009, 08:14 PM	#4
BillK Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Waldorf Md Posts: 222 Likes: 10 Liked 26 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Harmonic Balancer Alan, I think you are correct, just could not think of the proper name __________________ Bill Koustenis

03-28-2009, 08:18 PM	#5
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Harmonic Balancer Thanks for the input. The reason I ask is the race car my brother and I bought has one on it and personally, I've never heard of them. I was filling out our tech card and they ask for the balancer make and when I looked the PBM was what we had. The engine is fairly fresh and was built by a well known engine builder. I cannot believe he would use this lower end product because the engine has all good stuff in it. What may have happend was the previous owner may have taken a good unit off and replaced it with a cheapie when he sold the car. __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

03-29-2009, 06:54 PM	#8
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Harmonic Balancer My brother and I decided to replace the PBM Performance Products balancer that we currently have on the car. Our engine has all good stuff in it and I do not want to run the risk of doing any major damage. What bothers me about the whole deal is I looked extensively on the internet and I could not find any solid information regarding it's manufacture and engineering history. The next question is, what do you recommend as far as a quality balancer? As you can read I have 2 votes for the ATI. Our engine is a 402 CI BB Chevrolet. Thanks __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

03-29-2009, 08:38 PM	#9
Alex Denysenko Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Michigan City IN Posts: 633 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Harmonic Balancer PBM is Erson's parent company. Their balancers are repackaged Power Pond units which are high quality made in Australia. Both SFI and non SFI street balancers are offered. http://www.pbm-erson.com/store.php http://www.precisionparts.com.au/ __________________ Alex Denysenko NHRA 3038 SS, 3305 STK - IHRA 6 SS, 330A STK Moneymaker Racing LaPorte Indiana 219-861-1214 www.moneymakerracing.net

03-29-2009, 09:09 PM	#10
SGSST109E Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 342 Likes: 54 Liked 124 Times in 58 Posts	Re: Harmonic Balancer I had an import balancer come apart on me. It bent the nose of the crank, wacked the pan and luck for me it went out and didn't hit a tire at 141mph. ATI from that point on.