Trans Bolt Holes 3rd Gen Camaro - Page 2

ss3011 · 06-16-2016, 04:35 PM

If you google rivnut, or rivet nut , or nutsert , there is all kinds of information, and you-tube video's on where to get them, and how to install them . Very useful !!

brian schuetta · 06-16-2016, 04:55 PM

I just looked at rivet nut tools! I bet i could find somebody smarter than me to fix this mess for less than those tools cost.

ss3011 · 06-16-2016, 06:27 PM

I agree on the price, but you have to be able to hold the insert from spinning has compress the sleeve, which you probably cant do by just threading in a bolt . Glad you found a place to borrow one !

Eman · 06-16-2016, 06:35 PM

Mine were stripped out, not loose. I just drilled and retapped what was there. Loose isn't a problem as they will tighten up when the bolt tightens. If I have any furthur problems all I would do is drill a hole in the side of the sheetmetal frame member and use a nut inside. There isn't much pressure on those bolts.

ss3011 · 06-16-2016, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Eman

Mine were stripped out, not loose. I just drilled and retapped what was there. Loose isn't a problem as they will tighten up when the bolt tightens. If I have any furthur problems all I would do is drill a hole in the side of the sheetmetal frame member and use a nut inside. There isn't much pressure on those bolts.

I think the problem with Brian's car, is the trapped nuts are rounded off, so they just spin in the cage. Kind of like the trapped nuts in my 1973 Firebirds spring hanger, when the clips break you need to cut them out, bummer !

Eman · 06-17-2016, 08:39 AM

I could swear mine were welded in. Car's in the trailer so I can't look now. I know they weren't loose when I worked on it. Maybe some years are different.

brian schuetta · 06-17-2016, 09:22 AM

Yes ss3011 that's what's happening. Didn't get home in time to work on it last night.

ss3011 · 06-17-2016, 01:17 PM

I figure the biggest problem is getting out the old nut, if you have to cut it out, then I guess you could just weld in a new nut , Domm suggested welding the existing nut, If you can get at it , that would work. You could use the rivnut idea, but install it in a different place, so you wouldn't have to get the old nut out . I think you could make your own tool with a longer bolt, nut and washer , you could then hold the bolt, while you tighten the nut, this would pull on the insert , without spinning it . Worth a try !

Mark Yacavone · 06-17-2016, 06:12 PM

Drill it out clean
Put the nut-sert in the hole and tack the lip 2,3 spots.
Grind flush.
Pull the insert down with a washer and bolt.

brian schuetta · 06-21-2016, 08:20 AM

Ok to get a better idea of what was inside the frame I put a drill through the bolt hole from the bottom and through the floor, of course I took out the front seat and rocker cover and moved the carpeting. Then took a 1 1/8"hole saw and cut a hole in the floor centered on the previously drilled hole from below. There it was but not what I expected it to look like. So now the nut is too far down the hole for my MIG welder tip to fit without opening up the hole larger. Will get back to it tonight when I get someone to try to screw a bolt in while I watch from above.

06-16-2016, 04:35 PM	#11
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 885 Likes: 63 Liked 221 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Trans Bolt Holes 3rd Gen Camaro If you google rivnut, or rivet nut , or nutsert , there is all kinds of information, and you-tube video's on where to get them, and how to install them . Very useful !!

06-16-2016, 04:55 PM	#12
brian schuetta Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: san antonio tx Posts: 255 Likes: 5 Liked 28 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Trans Bolt Holes 3rd Gen Camaro I just looked at rivet nut tools! I bet i could find somebody smarter than me to fix this mess for less than those tools cost.

06-16-2016, 06:27 PM	#13
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 885 Likes: 63 Liked 221 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Trans Bolt Holes 3rd Gen Camaro I agree on the price, but you have to be able to hold the insert from spinning has compress the sleeve, which you probably cant do by just threading in a bolt . Glad you found a place to borrow one !

06-16-2016, 06:35 PM	#14
Eman Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: E TN Posts: 441 Likes: 14 Liked 105 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Trans Bolt Holes 3rd Gen Camaro Mine were stripped out, not loose. I just drilled and retapped what was there. Loose isn't a problem as they will tighten up when the bolt tightens. If I have any furthur problems all I would do is drill a hole in the side of the sheetmetal frame member and use a nut inside. There isn't much pressure on those bolts.

06-17-2016, 08:39 AM	#16
Eman Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: E TN Posts: 441 Likes: 14 Liked 105 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Trans Bolt Holes 3rd Gen Camaro I could swear mine were welded in. Car's in the trailer so I can't look now. I know they weren't loose when I worked on it. Maybe some years are different.

06-17-2016, 09:22 AM	#17
brian schuetta Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: san antonio tx Posts: 255 Likes: 5 Liked 28 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Trans Bolt Holes 3rd Gen Camaro Yes ss3011 that's what's happening. Didn't get home in time to work on it last night.

06-17-2016, 01:17 PM	#18
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 885 Likes: 63 Liked 221 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Trans Bolt Holes 3rd Gen Camaro I figure the biggest problem is getting out the old nut, if you have to cut it out, then I guess you could just weld in a new nut , Domm suggested welding the existing nut, If you can get at it , that would work. You could use the rivnut idea, but install it in a different place, so you wouldn't have to get the old nut out . I think you could make your own tool with a longer bolt, nut and washer , you could then hold the bolt, while you tighten the nut, this would pull on the insert , without spinning it . Worth a try !

06-17-2016, 06:12 PM	#19
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,414 Likes: 2,581 Liked 4,447 Times in 1,693 Posts	Re: Trans Bolt Holes 3rd Gen Camaro Drill it out clean Put the nut-sert in the hole and tack the lip 2,3 spots. Grind flush. Pull the insert down with a washer and bolt. __________________ We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for..... Will Rogers

06-21-2016, 08:20 AM	#20
brian schuetta Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: san antonio tx Posts: 255 Likes: 5 Liked 28 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Trans Bolt Holes 3rd Gen Camaro Ok to get a better idea of what was inside the frame I put a drill through the bolt hole from the bottom and through the floor, of course I took out the front seat and rocker cover and moved the carpeting. Then took a 1 1/8"hole saw and cut a hole in the floor centered on the previously drilled hole from below. There it was but not what I expected it to look like. So now the nut is too far down the hole for my MIG welder tip to fit without opening up the hole larger. Will get back to it tonight when I get someone to try to screw a bolt in while I watch from above.