Stocker pistons...

[brent flynn]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

The Ram2 is a good combo, the problem is the heads are almost impossible to find. When you do they are 2500.00 +. The D port combo is a good combo still.

I have 4-5 sets of the 16's and 62's, that are legal for my combo...and 3 intake manifolds... I think the Ram Air2's will have to wait...hehe...
Besides, there isnt that much difference in E.T. (maybe a few tenths, or so..), not worth it , for me... and You'd be down in 'C', with, even faster combo's... I dont wanna be embarrassed any more, than i already will be ...hehe

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman

Ring seal on a 4.25" AMC ! Good Luck !
Better have that block filled solid to the deck.
And yes I speak from experiance.
BTW JE is now owned by Weisco.

Filled to the bottom of the water outlets and .070" over and 1-2% leak down.
After close to 100 runs and we were looking at worst case 4%. That's my experience!

[Jeff Lee]

I would think RAII heads would be a bargain at $2500! I'm no Pontiac expert but I'm pretty sure they are much rarer than the RAIV (Todd's engine, right?) heads and they seem to be $2500-$3500.
And that's why I'm on your guys side of the fence. There's no reason NHRA shouldn't allow the Edelbrock head as a RA replacement. On the top of my head, I can't think of a more expensive OEM head than the RA heads. Geez, I once bought a restored 1969 RAIV 4-speed Quadrajet for $2800 and flipped it for $3500! Friends thought I was off the deep end spending that kind of money on a speculation. Glad it panned out...

[brent flynn]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

I would think RAII heads would be a bargain at $2500! I'm no Pontiac expert but I'm pretty sure they are much rarer than the RAIV (Todd's engine, right?) heads and they seem to be $2500-$3500.
And that's why I'm on your guys side of the fence. There's no reason NHRA shouldn't allow the Edelbrock head as a RA replacement. On the top of my head, I can't think of a more expensive OEM head than the RA heads. Geez, I once bought a restored 1969 RAIV 4-speed Quadrajet for $2800 and flipped it for $3500! Friends thought I was off the deep end spending that kind of money on a speculation. Glad it panned out...

Todd is allowed RA2, they were available as 1968 1/2...RA4 didnt come out until 1969... even though the heads are same design, the 4's are bigger than the 2's and the 69 engine runs an aluminum manifold. I dont know, if it were up to me, there would be no aftermarket blocks/heads , in class. I know its been gettin crazy for a long time, but , the blocks that they allow, now, are insane... I have 6-7 400 blocks, all which are obsolete, if i ever want to run with Burton's and a few guys like that... but, thats not even an option. I cant believe how fast these cars are getting. I sold a '72 H.O. carb , for 1450.00... Probably could have gotten more, on ebay, but, i saw a guy wanting one, and shot him a price...he bought it. I wish i could find a few more of those! hehe.

[Jeff Lee]

Oh...I thought Todd had a '69 'Bird. I see he can go 127 MPH so that tells me he's making buckoo power!

[brent flynn]

Yea, Todd has an awesome car... and im sure he is gonna run some fast #'s, when he gets it back out...

[Adam Strang]

Todd`s car is a `68 Ram Air II car.I ran that combo last year and it`s worth more than a few tenths over the D-port combo.

As for the pistons Brett,you ain`t gonna lose 6 tenths if you do end up running TRW pistons.

[Todd Hoven]

I agree with Adam , Brent. The TRW's will not be that bad. It's more important to be out and learning the car then waiting another year for 1000 + CP's. The right rings and shortblock setup is very important and will make a big difference in power.



I've been a 126 with my car. Adam has made the fastest runs with a Stickshift and a Ram 2 combo. I saw him go 10.47 127.00. His car flies and is show quality. I'll be out this year, just happy to be racing. I'm not sure anybody can run with Byrd or Duzac in D. But it will be fun to try. I'm sure Jeff Lee Will be fast as well.

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Oh...I thought Todd had a '69 'Bird. I see he can go 127 MPH so that tells me he's making buckoo power!

[Jim Kaekel]

Too much Pontiac love going on here.....just kidding guys.

[Jeff Lee]

That's where I messed up, it's Adam that has the RAIV and Brent has the RAII. Either way, 126-127 is some fast MPH in D! I was 125 in D/S before so I'm guessing I'll be 126-127 in D/S. New intake, carb and cam plus Rob's trickest clutch this go around. Looks like dyno time by mid-April. At that point I can stop guessing. Of course they've shut down 2 out of 3 tracks in Arizona and that sure doesn't make it easy...

I know I've said it before, I had a RAIV '69 GTO with a 4-speed and factory 4.33's. It was one sweet car. I almost can't imagine that drivetrain in a '69 Firebird back in the day on F70's! I'd sure like to have one but that sure is not in the budget!