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Old 07-01-2011, 01:24 PM   #11
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This is one of THE COOLEST threads I have seen in a long time. Very informative. Thanks to all the contributors.
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:36 PM   #12
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Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

Mark -

That is one of my other choices. You may look that there is a slight advantage to the '76 since it has a larger venturi spec IIRC. Also, these cars will all have the 8.5 rear end since this was before the introduction of the 7.5-7.625 rear in anything but the X-bodies. I also like this combination with a four speed in U.

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Actually, the 305 Chevy 2-bbl @ 180 is available in a wide choice of bodies from '75-'79, including BOP choices and is not a bad choice at any weight break, even the X-body (Monza-Sunbird-Starfire). The aftermarket 12-bolt for the '82-up F-bodies will bolt in to the X-body when shortened.

The tech items you mentioned concerning engine building procedures and choices are exactly applicable ALL THE TIME TO EVERY COMBINATION. (I prefer a moly top ring, however.)
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:50 PM   #13
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Mark -

That is one of my other choices. You may look that there is a slight advantage to the '76 since it has a larger venturi spec IIRC. Also, these cars will all have the 8.5 rear end since this was before the introduction of the 7.5-7.625 rear in anything but the X-bodies. I also like this combination with a four speed in U.

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Actually, the 305 Chevy 2-bbl @ 180 is available in a wide choice of bodies from '75-'79, including BOP choices and is not a bad choice at any weight break, even the X-body (Monza-Sunbird-Starfire). The aftermarket 12-bolt for the '82-up F-bodies will bolt in to the X-body when shortened.

The tech items you mentioned concerning engine building procedures and choices are exactly applicable ALL THE TIME TO EVERY COMBINATION. (I prefer a moly top ring, however.)
Dwight, My 76 Omega came with a 7.5 rear .I think the 73-74 N,O,V,A cars were all 8.5s but that's a narrower one like 1st gen Camaros . Not a problem, because there's plenty of wider 2nd Gen Camaro and F-bird 8.5 s out there.

How about using a std bore cast rebuilder second ring in a .030 over application? Goes along for the ride and makes you legal.. Guilty!
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:59 PM   #14
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Mark, 68 to 79 Novas (and others) have same width rear. Spring perches are a little different but will bolt up!
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Old 07-01-2011, 02:02 PM   #15
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Dwight. I am all for switching it up get a bunch of Q cars even. This would motivate me to race more even with the enhancements. I am sure I could get some of my semi retired slow car friends to come back for this.
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The tech items you mentioned concerning engine building procedures and choices are exactly applicable ALL THE TIME TO EVERY COMBINATION. (I prefer a moly top ring, however.)[/QUOTE]

Cast piston, "tight" wall clearence, No real HP, Moly is too much wall tension for me. (IMHO)
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Old 07-01-2011, 02:24 PM   #17
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I have thought about 82 combo for years. I drove one back in 82 as my daily driver and it ran Low 15's
@ 88 mph with zero modifications. As I recall, I ran best shifting it at 5200-5400. It was a stick car and
I believe with decent tires it would have edged the high 14's ( It had some weird Metric Wheel and Tire combo
that was rock hard).I I have known about this combo a long time but I never said anything since we run
some of the same classes with Jr.'s car...........It sound like the cat just got out of the bag now!

We have run very well with the OEM cast pistons and production style/width rings in the boy's 318 and did not go
to the big money pistons/rings till we had TriCity build our latest engine a couple of year ago. It was a second
under the old index without spending a bunch of money. It currently belongs to one of our friends and may
still have some good years of racing yet!

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Mark, 68 to 79 Novas (and others) have same width rear. Spring perches are a little different but will bolt up!
I guess that's right. Maybe I'm thinking of the front suspension which is very similar to the 75-81 Camaro and Firebird (metric)
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Keep 'em coming guys, this thread is awesome. Lower class stockers RULE !!!
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John,

Only because I have one sitting in the yard I've glanced at the '64 Valiant V100 sedan with the 2bbl 273 and 4sp. It seems to fit in P but I'm not sure but since some of the Mopar guys are running this same engine in the wagons I was wondering if it was a viable combo.

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