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Old 01-16-2018, 02:15 PM   #1
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Default OK Jeff better late than never!

Jeff Teuton;455700]Jason, the whole of Stock and Super Stock suffer from the 'allowables'. There are a million reasons why it happened over the last 60 years or so. Well maybe a few hundred anyway. Many things we take for granted today, were not allowed at some distant time. That would make for an interesting thing to create a post about what has changed in Stock and Super Stock since say 1955. Some of us were around. It might surprise everyone to see it in print, especially in this slow time of year.

So I'm 3+ years too late. It's winter, it's cold and snowing on the mountain. Let's see what you've all got.
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Old 01-16-2018, 02:44 PM   #2
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Default Re: OK Jeff better late than never!

Billy, just use the NHRA 1975 rule book and enforce it for stock eliminator and I would be a "Happy Camper "! .... If you choose a fragile combo your problem.... You know the rules going in!
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:33 PM   #3
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Default Re: OK Jeff better late than never!

Since we are going back to 1955, let's take time to review the Dec. 1955 Hot Rod Magazine editorial by Wally Parks following the first NHRA National event held at Great Bend Kansas.

"A lot of fellows who participated in the recent National Championship Drag Races at Great Bend, Kansas, were a bit shaken up at the thoroughness with which NHRA officials conducted the pre-race technical inspections. Crew members who were charged with responsibility for maintaining safety of contestant equipment were trained at their jobs and handled the details with conscientious sincerity. It wasn't that they were trying to find fault with a participant's car; they simply followed the rules as they were meant to be followed. Naturally, a lot of last minutes repairs and alterations had to be made, some of which cost the entrants valuable time. Most complaints were, "We've been running this way at our strip all along and have had no trouble before!", which simply pointed out that a lot of strips have been far too lax in their enforcement of universally accepted safety regulations governing drag strip operations.
But after the meet was ended, members of the hard-working NHRA technical committee became heroes in the eyes of many participants. They exerted the same honest concern in verifying the legality of class winners as they had in searching for potential danger points in the earlier inspections.
As winners were determined, during the class eliminations, an assigned official would escort each winning car (that) was held pending a tear-down inspections of its engine. Engines were torn all the way down in real expose.
To say that some owners of stock cars in the National Drags were startled would be the understatement of the meet-they were shook! And why not? In one Stock class the first, second and third place cars proved to be running out of class, having modifications or special equipment that were definitely not permissible.
As a result, no records were established in either "A," "B," "C," or "D" Stock classes at Great Bend. Only two eliminators, "B" and "D" classes, were determined legal upon inspections.
What's to come of all this dishonesty? Well, there are several possible solutions. One is to discontinue the running of Stock classes, but this isn't practical. Another might be to run Stocks for "time only," giving no awards to winners. Last, but not least, would be to change class restrictions to simply require "no visible modifications," leaving hidden parts wide open to alteration.
Whatever is done, a lot of honest people will take the rap for offenses committed by a few would-be "hot dogs" who haven't enough confidence in their own engine refinements to declare them properly.
As always, we welcome our readers' reactions and suggestions.-WP"

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Old 01-16-2018, 09:38 PM   #4
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Default Re: OK Jeff better late than never!

Thanks Travis
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:44 PM   #5
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Default Re: OK Jeff better late than never!

OK, you got me. Who is Jason? What is that number? It's not my fault!!! I didn't do it!!!! It was an accident!!!! Help me please...
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:03 PM   #6
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Default Re: OK Jeff better late than never!

We all know you did it Jeff.
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Old 01-17-2018, 12:34 AM   #7
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Default Re: OK Jeff better late than never!

It wasn't me man. LOL
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:27 AM   #8
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Default Re: OK Jeff better late than never!

Go back to 1970.
Headers, 9" tires, .060 over, Floorshifts, traction bars and square cams PERIOD.

Want more? Run SuperStock. A stocker should be able to drive you to work
everyday if needed.

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Old 01-17-2018, 07:46 AM   #9
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Great post Travis!
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Old 01-17-2018, 08:45 AM   #10
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Default Re: OK Jeff better late than never!

Thanks Travis, I couldn't have asked for a better response to this thread!
Jeff, better check some of your old posts. Ya know, they don't go away.
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