Original hemi dart information - Page 27

jack arnew · 11-22-2009, 06:50 PM

68HEMISS, you are correct again on both counts. The originar factory cars did have mufflers (small glass pack type) with a pipe connected, and I did have the grill covered with plexiglass on the car when I ran pro stock early that season.I would love to get a copy of the picture you spoke of, as I have almost no photos of any of my race cars.

Paul Ceasrine · 11-23-2009, 07:34 AM

Jack,
If you go to the doverdragstrip.com site. Go to the 'Where are they now'
forum. Scroll down to '1968 Factory Hemi Darts and Cuda's at Dover'.
Go to page 2, about half-way down. There's your car at Dover starting
line, (circa 1970). Lane II, towe side.
PC

mopar68 · 11-23-2009, 10:53 PM

What's that "Grump lump" doing on a Mopar hood?

M68

Paul Ceasrine · 11-24-2009, 05:18 AM

Jack Arnew,,, I see you joined the Dover site. "Good for you Jack"
Mark J,,, Did Tom Crutchfield run the Hemi Dart through "Palmer Dodge" or "Button Motors". One of his cars shows his name on the door panel (ie; Hemi Dart). Charlie "L", said when Charlie Castaldo got the
car from Tom, the motor was tired. Not the same motor that won the
69' S/S Magazine Nationals. Also, looks like the Cragars on the front
of the SS/BA Dart at Indy 69' were from the wrecked SS/B Dart................
Another, in a long lost line. Whipple Motors out of Hingham, Mass
(southern Boston region) tried, but could not get a Hemi Dart. Not sure if this is true or not, but were told by the Regional Director that the allotment for the area had been met. They were guided to Mr. Norm's, but refused to deal with them (price shenanigans?).
PC

mopar68 · 11-24-2009, 09:46 AM

Any history on this car?

M68

P.S. Reserve one of those Hemi Roadrunners for me!!

68hemiss · 11-24-2009, 05:55 PM

Paul,
What I was told was Crutchfield & Balik asked (not sure if it was Maxwell or Cahill) about teaming up together on a Hemi Dart. Both were "Contract racers" with their 64-5 cars. They were told it would be OK and to see where they could get the best deal on a car.
Palmer Dodge gave them the best price and that is where they bought it. Palmer Dodge is listed as one of the dealerships that ordered a Dart in the paperwork that I have. Did you get the pics I sent yet?
Jack,
I will try to give you a call next week (kind of busy this week with Thanksgiving) and I will send you some pics of your Barracuda (I have a few). I think I have your number from another post. While going through some of my stuff I see that you won SS/B at the Winternats in 1973 with the car! That must have been a long haul! Congrats!
Mark J

68hemiss · 11-24-2009, 06:02 PM

M68,
i have both of those pics but I have not been able to find anything else out about that Barracuda. I have spoken to a few people out west that remembered the car - I can't find Dick Bowers. If I had to guess, I have a hunch that if it stayed in CA - this might be the Lydon & Johnson (ex- DeFrank & Cohen)car. Anyone know anything about this one?
Thanks,
Mark J

Paul Ceasrine · 11-25-2009, 06:10 AM

Mark J & Mopar68
Prince Chrysler-Plymouth, South Hawthorne Blvd., Hawthorne, Calif.
Hawthorne Blvd. runs north-south, right up into Inglewood. Car ran a couple of 10.90's (SS/BA) at Irwindale (late 68' or early 69'). One of the
few west-coast Hemi cars running "Jardine Headers".................................
That photo of Jack's car with the ugly Lump-Scoop must be from the later part of the early 70's. The photo at Dover (the pretty one) has the car with Keystones, and factory Hemi scoop (circa 1970), fresh off Sox & Martins hands.....I noticed in the Don Bowers ad, that you could get a set of chrome wheels, if you ordered a Hemi Road Runner. I would really like a set of those wheels, but just what would I do with a Hemi Road Runner??
$$$$$$$$$$$,,Hello Mecum Auctions.
PC

mopar68 · 11-25-2009, 12:25 PM

Paul, I'd know what to do with that Hemi RR! Drive it!

Mark J, I tried to find Dick Bowers from Hi-Performance Center on Google--no luck. Then I typed in "Prince
Chrysler-Plymouth" and found this:

Hmmm...I don't see any Hemi Road Runners on the lot--even used ones!

M68

jack arnew · 11-25-2009, 02:09 PM

MOPAR68' the Grump Lump on the hood was to make roon for a tunnel ram intake, as you may well know, when ran as prostock. It wasn't good looking but was the only thing we could find at the time.The manifold and carbs gave me almost a tenth and a half , along with a few outher changes,so it had to stay.Built Duster for pro just about the time better hoods showed up, so I parked the car for the next year

11-22-2009, 06:50 PM	#261
jack arnew Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 47 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information 68HEMISS, you are correct again on both counts. The originar factory cars did have mufflers (small glass pack type) with a pipe connected, and I did have the grill covered with plexiglass on the car when I ran pro stock early that season.I would love to get a copy of the picture you spoke of, as I have almost no photos of any of my race cars.

11-23-2009, 07:34 AM	#262
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Jack, If you go to the doverdragstrip.com site. Go to the 'Where are they now' forum. Scroll down to '1968 Factory Hemi Darts and Cuda's at Dover'. Go to page 2, about half-way down. There's your car at Dover starting line, (circa 1970). Lane II, towe side. PC

11-23-2009, 10:53 PM	#263
mopar68 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,660 Likes: 8 Liked 44 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information What's that "Grump lump" doing on a Mopar hood? M68

11-24-2009, 05:18 AM	#264
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Jack Arnew,,, I see you joined the Dover site. "Good for you Jack" Mark J,,, Did Tom Crutchfield run the Hemi Dart through "Palmer Dodge" or "Button Motors". One of his cars shows his name on the door panel (ie; Hemi Dart). Charlie "L", said when Charlie Castaldo got the car from Tom, the motor was tired. Not the same motor that won the 69' S/S Magazine Nationals. Also, looks like the Cragars on the front of the SS/BA Dart at Indy 69' were from the wrecked SS/B Dart................ Another, in a long lost line. Whipple Motors out of Hingham, Mass (southern Boston region) tried, but could not get a Hemi Dart. Not sure if this is true or not, but were told by the Regional Director that the allotment for the area had been met. They were guided to Mr. Norm's, but refused to deal with them (price shenanigans?). PC

11-24-2009, 09:46 AM	#265
mopar68 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,660 Likes: 8 Liked 44 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Any history on this car? M68 P.S. Reserve one of those Hemi Roadrunners for me!! Last edited by mopar68; 11-24-2009 at 09:49 AM.

11-24-2009, 05:55 PM	#266
68hemiss Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 167 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Original hemi dart information Paul, What I was told was Crutchfield & Balik asked (not sure if it was Maxwell or Cahill) about teaming up together on a Hemi Dart. Both were "Contract racers" with their 64-5 cars. They were told it would be OK and to see where they could get the best deal on a car. Palmer Dodge gave them the best price and that is where they bought it. Palmer Dodge is listed as one of the dealerships that ordered a Dart in the paperwork that I have. Did you get the pics I sent yet? Jack, I will try to give you a call next week (kind of busy this week with Thanksgiving) and I will send you some pics of your Barracuda (I have a few). I think I have your number from another post. While going through some of my stuff I see that you won SS/B at the Winternats in 1973 with the car! That must have been a long haul! Congrats! Mark J

11-24-2009, 06:02 PM	#267
68hemiss Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 167 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Original hemi dart information M68, i have both of those pics but I have not been able to find anything else out about that Barracuda. I have spoken to a few people out west that remembered the car - I can't find Dick Bowers. If I had to guess, I have a hunch that if it stayed in CA - this might be the Lydon & Johnson (ex- DeFrank & Cohen)car. Anyone know anything about this one? Thanks, Mark J

11-25-2009, 06:10 AM	#268
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Mark J & Mopar68 Prince Chrysler-Plymouth, South Hawthorne Blvd., Hawthorne, Calif. Hawthorne Blvd. runs north-south, right up into Inglewood. Car ran a couple of 10.90's (SS/BA) at Irwindale (late 68' or early 69'). One of the few west-coast Hemi cars running "Jardine Headers"................................. That photo of Jack's car with the ugly Lump-Scoop must be from the later part of the early 70's. The photo at Dover (the pretty one) has the car with Keystones, and factory Hemi scoop (circa 1970), fresh off Sox & Martins hands.....I noticed in the Don Bowers ad, that you could get a set of chrome wheels, if you ordered a Hemi Road Runner. I would really like a set of those wheels, but just what would I do with a Hemi Road Runner?? $$$$$$$$$$$,,Hello Mecum Auctions. PC

11-25-2009, 12:25 PM	#269
mopar68 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,660 Likes: 8 Liked 44 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Paul, I'd know what to do with that Hemi RR! Drive it! Mark J, I tried to find Dick Bowers from Hi-Performance Center on Google--no luck. Then I typed in "Prince Chrysler-Plymouth" and found this: Hmmm...I don't see any Hemi Road Runners on the lot--even used ones! M68

11-25-2009, 02:09 PM	#270
jack arnew Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 47 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information MOPAR68' the Grump Lump on the hood was to make roon for a tunnel ram intake, as you may well know, when ran as prostock. It wasn't good looking but was the only thing we could find at the time.The manifold and carbs gave me almost a tenth and a half , along with a few outher changes,so it had to stay.Built Duster for pro just about the time better hoods showed up, so I parked the car for the next year