Help a super stock rookie - Page 2

rx dealer · 05-02-2009, 07:15 AM

Chuck, nothing wrong with small tire car. I have 10.5 - 30 with ladder bars on my 93 firebird and I run super stock GT with a stick. If you setup the clutch good you should see 60' in the high 1.20s and maybe better. Call Jim Tarian for poring your cyl. heads 248-879-0815... Luke

Glenn Briglio · 05-02-2009, 12:58 PM

You have a PM.

randy wilson · 05-04-2009, 08:00 AM

we ran a quay car, 67 camaro with ladder bars and floaters 22 years ago and went 10.29 130 with 461x . you will be fine get started. who ever is doing randy manns heads is probably the best out there.do have some bowties done by john haskell aireresearch. palliup wash. will be willing to sell those, wanting to update to new vortec-bowtie. over 7000 invested, will take 2 without intake valves. just went 6.16 111.59 eighth mile this weekend, thompson.ohio.if you have any questions feel free to call me 660-748-5596. although there are other people far more knowledgeble than me on this board. bob lasco for instance.

Darrin Christen · 05-04-2009, 05:40 PM

Does anyone know what cubic inch Manns is running in SS/CS? What are the latest heads from GM that could be run in CS? Thanks

randy wilson · 05-05-2009, 06:24 AM

the latest heads are either 206 cc or 215 cc vortec bowtie. part no. at gm performance parts.think manns in the 310 range. do not know for sure.

Aaron Allison · 05-05-2009, 09:18 AM

Manns uses the new GMPP Large Port Vortec Bowtie Head

GMPP #25534446 fully assembled and #25534445 Bare

They have a 225 cc intake port and a 77 cc exhaust port with a 65 cc chamber

motohead1 · 05-05-2009, 10:03 AM

A big thanks to everyone for the information so far. We are working on the cage and other misc. items and as far as the motor goes Im going to complete the 363 with the AFR heads, dyno the package, and use it to shake the car down. then we will sell the motor, less a few items I want to keep, and in the meantime start building a smaller combo.

So as far as iron heads go, the phase 2 bowties that I have would not be as good a starting point as the Vortec heads that someone mentioned? no big deal, the phase 2's were cheep, and they have not had anything done to them as yet.

What area of the country does Randy Mann live, what kind of car does he have, and does he hang out on this board? Randy, if you can hear me, send me a PM.

Thanks again everyone.
Chuck

JRyan · 05-05-2009, 03:54 PM

Randy and Michael live in the Minneapolis area. Occasionally you'll find them on here. They are running a 2000 firebird that they used to run in GT. Very nice people if you get ahold of him I'm sure he'll help give some advice.

Rick Ryan

ronnie · 05-06-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by motohead1

Ok , we will finish the car, weigh it, and then decide on a displacement. We will sell the AFR comp 210's and the Carb, and use the money to get the Bowties done up. with a crank and piston change, we can make this 363 a bit smaller and away we go.Tell all your friends there is a guy selling a few new parts for cheep. LOL

If you want to fly, call Jeff @ Modern Cylinder in mi. @586.468.7914

ssheadcutter · 06-04-2009, 05:40 PM

I have done several sets of the old Iron Bowties including welding and reconfiguring the exhaust port and changing valve angles a little. Go to my website at www.headbytes.com I can feed 363 inches with those heads NO PROBLEM!!!

05-02-2009, 07:15 AM	#11
rx dealer Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lake Orion, Michigan Posts: 336 Likes: 9 Liked 53 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Help a super stock rookie Chuck, nothing wrong with small tire car. I have 10.5 - 30 with ladder bars on my 93 firebird and I run super stock GT with a stick. If you setup the clutch good you should see 60' in the high 1.20s and maybe better. Call Jim Tarian for poring your cyl. heads 248-879-0815... Luke

05-02-2009, 12:58 PM	#12
Glenn Briglio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Massapequa Park,NY Posts: 1,206 Likes: 1,728 Liked 822 Times in 264 Posts	Re: Help a super stock rookie You have a PM. __________________ 1989 Camaro Iroc-Z I/SA B&B Auto Machine Shop.

05-04-2009, 08:00 AM	#13
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 20 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Help a super stock rookie we ran a quay car, 67 camaro with ladder bars and floaters 22 years ago and went 10.29 130 with 461x . you will be fine get started. who ever is doing randy manns heads is probably the best out there.do have some bowties done by john haskell aireresearch. palliup wash. will be willing to sell those, wanting to update to new vortec-bowtie. over 7000 invested, will take 2 without intake valves. just went 6.16 111.59 eighth mile this weekend, thompson.ohio.if you have any questions feel free to call me 660-748-5596. although there are other people far more knowledgeble than me on this board. bob lasco for instance. __________________ don,t have one

05-04-2009, 05:40 PM	#14
Darrin Christen Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Des Allemands, LA Posts: 365 Likes: 8 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Help a super stock rookie Does anyone know what cubic inch Manns is running in SS/CS? What are the latest heads from GM that could be run in CS? Thanks __________________ 4878 SS/GA 66CHEVY II

05-05-2009, 06:24 AM	#15
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 20 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Help a super stock rookie the latest heads are either 206 cc or 215 cc vortec bowtie. part no. at gm performance parts.think manns in the 310 range. do not know for sure. __________________ don,t have one

05-05-2009, 09:18 AM	#16
Aaron Allison Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: East Palestine, OH Posts: 216 Likes: 4 Liked 141 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Help a super stock rookie Manns uses the new GMPP Large Port Vortec Bowtie Head GMPP #25534446 fully assembled and #25534445 Bare They have a 225 cc intake port and a 77 cc exhaust port with a 65 cc chamber __________________ Aaron Allison 395 STK, 395 SS, 3395 SC

05-05-2009, 10:03 AM	#17
motohead1 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 8 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Help a super stock rookie A big thanks to everyone for the information so far. We are working on the cage and other misc. items and as far as the motor goes Im going to complete the 363 with the AFR heads, dyno the package, and use it to shake the car down. then we will sell the motor, less a few items I want to keep, and in the meantime start building a smaller combo. So as far as iron heads go, the phase 2 bowties that I have would not be as good a starting point as the Vortec heads that someone mentioned? no big deal, the phase 2's were cheep, and they have not had anything done to them as yet. What area of the country does Randy Mann live, what kind of car does he have, and does he hang out on this board? Randy, if you can hear me, send me a PM. Thanks again everyone. Chuck

05-05-2009, 03:54 PM	#18
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 642 Likes: 28 Liked 104 Times in 28 Posts	Re: Help a super stock rookie Randy and Michael live in the Minneapolis area. Occasionally you'll find them on here. They are running a 2000 firebird that they used to run in GT. Very nice people if you get ahold of him I'm sure he'll help give some advice. Rick Ryan

06-04-2009, 05:40 PM	#20
ssheadcutter Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 3 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Help a super stock rookie I have done several sets of the old Iron Bowties including welding and reconfiguring the exhaust port and changing valve angles a little. Go to my website at www.headbytes.com I can feed 363 inches with those heads NO PROBLEM!!!