Hemi Head Ruling - Page 2

Spyphish · 02-26-2013, 09:13 AM

This just like our poor nation, governance by FREAKOUT. (Peggy Noonan)2013

Here’s the deal. As of this moment I am sponsoring a hybrid Chootout ie: AH class elims on Sat. $10,000 winner take all. Lets call it the "Krazy Kajun Freakout Classic" (KKFC) race. May throw in a bucket of chicken, HA!

The original rule on VC etc will be enforced as far as my payout goes. This is America....I will enter the event in order to park on the grounds and will make my final voyages with the Phish at Thursdays test session. I will not enter the race at all. After NHRA is done with whatever for class, winning car and crew will report to my trailer if they want to collect. My crew will be excused and winning crew will remove the intake, place my valve cover on the head to verify no mods etc, visual inspection of VC bolt shaft (no threads exposed), and pour a runner. Myself, one of my R&M heads, a burette and my checkbook is all that will be present. RSVP required.

Jeff Teuton · 02-26-2013, 10:17 AM

Spyfish, can I go watch? This could be an episode of my new Soap Opera about the Hemi cars called As the Bayou Flows. it will debut on CBS this summer.

jmcarter · 02-26-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Spyfish, can I go watch? This could be an episode of my new Soap Opera about the Hemi cars called As the Bayou Flows. it will debut on CBS this summer.

All the good shows are on CBS....I'll subscribe.

art leong · 02-26-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

All the good shows are on CBS....I'll subscribe.

Their "news" coverage is exceptional.
So "fair and balanced" LOL

jmcarter · 02-26-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by art leong

Their "news" coverage is exceptional.
So "fair and balanced" LOL

Networks carry news? Who da thunk it?

News pickings are pretty slim to be sure...Don't think they are the least bit interested in our demographic Art.

jaythorne · 02-26-2013, 10:59 AM

will be interesting to see
who shows up with those rules
maybe i should get my car runnin...might be easy $$

David Barton · 02-26-2013, 11:26 AM

I don't know why everyone keeps saying the original rule was to not cut into the top of the valve cover bolt hole. If it said anything about the valve cover bolt hole it would have meant cutting into ANY portion of the hole.

Where did it ever say you can cut into the hole but not on the top?

Anyway, besides all of that, Charlie, I have 2 simple questions for you.

#1 - At Indy 2012, did you go to teardown with your valve cover flange busted off?

#2 - At Indy 2012, did you have external modifications to the front of your heads like Comella had at the Dutch Classic?

According to the picture posted on Moparts, your valve cover flange has been machine so much that the flange is falling off. What good is the top of the hole if the flange is gone? And the one crappy repair you can see that the flange was poorly welded on and is clearly not welded back in place where it should be.

Wendell Howes stated that everyones valve covers should bolt onto each others heads. We clearly showed him as well as NHRA that you can still bolt on a factory valve cover to our heads with all 10 bolts. I can't say the same for yours being you have to bolt your valve covers to the intake! Can you say bogus?

I wouldn't have the balls to show up at an NHRA event with parts like this. I have too much respect for guys like Dave Ley and Ryck Cambell. I couldn't look them in the eye with a straight face and say my parts are legal. I don't know how you sleep at night.

David Barton · 02-26-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Castros

If the two most prominent S/S/AH HEMI engine builders and racers don't like the ruling, why didn't the N.H.R.A. consult them before adopting it?

NHRA did consult with my Dad and Westcott and this is how they came to a ruling. My Dad has been on them for months about putting a rule in writing because its clear that our competitors are taking it way too far.

NHRA made this new ruling because they know CW shouldn't have passed at Indy. He keeps making it like I'm spinning the story but he is full of smoke and mirrors.

jaythorne · 02-26-2013, 11:52 AM

pictures of your latest greatest david?

Frank Castros · 02-26-2013, 12:39 PM

The simple solution would have been to move forward, and state the rule will be enforced as originally written to benefit the class and no one competitor or engine builder.
The integrity of the Super Stock Class is being questioned by this decision.

02-26-2013, 09:13 AM	#11
Spyphish Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 840 Likes: 16 Liked 662 Times in 174 Posts	Re: Hemi Head Ruling This just like our poor nation, governance by FREAKOUT. (Peggy Noonan)2013 Here’s the deal. As of this moment I am sponsoring a hybrid Chootout ie: AH class elims on Sat. $10,000 winner take all. Lets call it the "Krazy Kajun Freakout Classic" (KKFC) race. May throw in a bucket of chicken, HA! The original rule on VC etc will be enforced as far as my payout goes. This is America....I will enter the event in order to park on the grounds and will make my final voyages with the Phish at Thursdays test session. I will not enter the race at all. After NHRA is done with whatever for class, winning car and crew will report to my trailer if they want to collect. My crew will be excused and winning crew will remove the intake, place my valve cover on the head to verify no mods etc, visual inspection of VC bolt shaft (no threads exposed), and pour a runner. Myself, one of my R&M heads, a burette and my checkbook is all that will be present. RSVP required.

02-26-2013, 10:17 AM	#12
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 326 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Hemi Head Ruling Spyfish, can I go watch? This could be an episode of my new Soap Opera about the Hemi cars called As the Bayou Flows. it will debut on CBS this summer. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

02-26-2013, 10:59 AM	#16
jaythorne Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 44 Likes: 4 Liked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Hemi Head Ruling will be interesting to see who shows up with those rules maybe i should get my car runnin...might be easy $$

02-26-2013, 11:26 AM	#17
David Barton Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 199 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hemi Head Ruling I don't know why everyone keeps saying the original rule was to not cut into the top of the valve cover bolt hole. If it said anything about the valve cover bolt hole it would have meant cutting into ANY portion of the hole. Where did it ever say you can cut into the hole but not on the top? Anyway, besides all of that, Charlie, I have 2 simple questions for you. #1 - At Indy 2012, did you go to teardown with your valve cover flange busted off? #2 - At Indy 2012, did you have external modifications to the front of your heads like Comella had at the Dutch Classic? According to the picture posted on Moparts, your valve cover flange has been machine so much that the flange is falling off. What good is the top of the hole if the flange is gone? And the one crappy repair you can see that the flange was poorly welded on and is clearly not welded back in place where it should be. Wendell Howes stated that everyones valve covers should bolt onto each others heads. We clearly showed him as well as NHRA that you can still bolt on a factory valve cover to our heads with all 10 bolts. I can't say the same for yours being you have to bolt your valve covers to the intake! Can you say bogus? I wouldn't have the balls to show up at an NHRA event with parts like this. I have too much respect for guys like Dave Ley and Ryck Cambell. I couldn't look them in the eye with a straight face and say my parts are legal. I don't know how you sleep at night. Attached Thumbnails

02-26-2013, 11:52 AM	#19
jaythorne Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 44 Likes: 4 Liked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Hemi Head Ruling pictures of your latest greatest david?

02-26-2013, 12:39 PM	#20
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,638 Likes: 2,151 Liked 2,074 Times in 766 Posts	Re: Hemi Head Ruling The simple solution would have been to move forward, and state the rule will be enforced as originally written to benefit the class and no one competitor or engine builder. The integrity of the Super Stock Class is being questioned by this decision.