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Old 01-27-2020, 10:40 AM   #1
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Default National Championship and Grade Points.

Hello All
Just food for thought.
Is this the new norm?
7 & 8 grade points to get into a National event.
There goes the chance for the budget racer to even think about a National Championship.
I believe at one time a budget race could have done well at 5 Divisional and 3 Nationals events and came in the Top 10 or even win a National Championship.
Now a racer that normally goes to 5 or 6 divisional can't even get into a National event.
The traveling sportsman, Pro's will now have a better chance at winning a Championship.
How is this good for the Sportsman Racers?
Now I have nothing against the guys and gals that can go to 8 plus divisional, and 5 plus Nationals. Guys & Gals that race 2 cars at every race they go to get double the points! This is what they have choose to do, and can afford to do.

"But what about the little guy"?

I personly know, I most likely will never run for a National Championship, I will however hopefully be able to try and run for a Divisional Championship again someday.
(that is unless I hit the Lotto)

NHRA needs to figure out how to balance this situation out.

Should NHRA only allow racers from the National Events Home Division to enter for the 1st couple weeks at a lower grade point system?
Example Say they open up VMP to Division 1 racers with a grade point of 5 or 6 2 weeks before opening to all division at grade 8?
Could this help the local budget sportsman races, that can't travel more then 3 or 4 hours to race?

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Old 01-27-2020, 11:54 AM   #2
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Could this help the local budget sportsman races, that can't travel more then 3 or 4 hours to race?

Just food for thought
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This is not realistic for racers out west.
My closest Divisional race is 5 hours away.
That race is one I never go to due to the track being what it is.
The race tracks out west with Divisional and National races are very far apart, not like the East coast.
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Old 01-27-2020, 02:29 PM   #3
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Default Re: National Championship and Grade Points.

And yet somehow guys like Jody Lang find a way. Don’t recall him ever going east of Boise. Definitely those in certain parts of the East have easier tows than many but where there’s a will there’s a way.
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Default Re: National Championship and Grade Points.

Seems like I remember seeing Jody at Indy a few years back.
He watches this forum so he may post to this thread.
I know he goes to Las Vegas regularly and it is only a 1100+ mile drive for him to Vegas.
1100 miles is only about a 20 to 24 hour drive with a big rig if you are the only driver.
Living out west is a long drive to all your races unless you live near one of the tracks that hosts a National or Divisional race. Some of my Canadian friends have it even worse.
Just a big disadvantage for those with a job.
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Default Re: National Championship and Grade Points.

It does appear that this is the new normal. At least on the east side of the country and any of the popular events out west. NHRA is not interested in the "little guy" as you can tell by the new quotas. Chances of me ever running a national event again are slim unless something changes. I did want one of those national event Walley's before I hang it up. I am going to try to get 8 GP this year. I had 7 last year and got shut out of the gators this year that is close to home for me. I guess I will try Atlanta but the quota is only 45 cars in SS there.
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Guys & Gals that race 2 cars at every race they go to get double the points!
If this is true, I see that other tread about a rent-a-racer being more useful. I can see SS guys putting one in stock but what about the guys running stock. I doubt there are any rentals that might tech in SS?
Do they really get two grade points for two cars?
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If this is true, I see that other tread about a rent-a-racer being more useful. I can see SS guys putting one in stock but what about the guys running stock. I doubt there are any rentals that might tech in SS?
Do they really get two grade points for two cars?
Yep, each tech card is worth a grade point. But if you are entering a national event with 2 cars, you need to have enough grade points with each car.

You can combine them, but then you can only enter one class and you can't ration them out as you see fit. Example: I have 2 cars and have 3 grade points for each. I can enter one class as a Grade 6 or two cars at Grade 3, but I can't divide them and use 4 in the higher demand class and then enter as a 2 in another class.
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Default Re: National Championship and Grade Points.

Actually the new norm is probably 8 grade points for every Nat. Event. Stock and SS are not for everyone...seems as though every change squeezes the little guy out even more, and that is what the bean counters want.
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Yep, each tech card is worth a grade point. But if you are entering a national event with 2 cars, you need to have enough grade points with each car.

You can combine them, but then you can only enter one class and you can't ration them out as you see fit. Example: I have 2 cars and have 3 grade points for each. I can enter one class as a Grade 6 or two cars at Grade 3, but I can't divide them and use 4 in the higher demand class and then enter as a 2 in another class.
So 4 division races with 2 cars gets you 8 grade points for 1 car at a National event.
Why not enter the tow vehicle in super street at each division race, just like buying 4 grade point.
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So 4 division races with 2 cars gets you 8 grade points for 1 car at a National event.
Why not enter the tow vehicle in super street at each division race, just like buying 4 grade point.
You could do that if the tow vehicle could pass tech and meet the safety rules. You wouldn’t even have to run it
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