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Old 06-30-2013, 12:44 PM   #21
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for some reason i remember 65-70 fullsize chevies having a 3 link (2 on the bottom,1 on top) on the base models with small blocks....or am i just dreaming?
seems to me the 4 links were the higher HP models...
That was the X - Frame 1958 - 1964 Chevy/BOP/Caddy
Yes the 58 got the X-frame as GM began installing heavier engines.
GM always boosted about the ride quality.
The Lower Links were angled toward the X-Frame and no Panhard Bar.
This frame required 2 - short drive shafts and a Center Link prone to snapping. (I know that so well)

65 - 76 went to H - Frame 4 Link set up with Panhard Bar.
Spring set on the Lower Suspension Link.
Used much heavier U-joints.

Then 77 up to 96 D / B Body used the earlier 1964 & up Chevelle/BOP Mid sized car H-Frame set up.
Upper Control Arms were angled eliminating the Panhard Bar.
Spring mounted on the Axle.

The 91-96 used a 8.5inch 10bolt that has a history of being very rugged.
Someone said you can put a larger 8.75 12 bolt Carrier in it.
Never understood why they were not put in Camaro/FB?
The Drive shaft rarely had any issues.
U-Joints lasted the life of the car regardless of abuse.
For racing gears just needed a balancing and the weight tab removed from the Yoke...and still keeping the original U-joints.

On my 1995 Impala SS purchased a Dick Miller Frame Connector for the upper and lower control arms.
Think he makes it for the Plus Sized cars too.

Hope this helps..

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Old 06-30-2013, 05:28 PM   #22
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Hey Joe, good hearing from you. Yes, Carl is taking pictures and video. I will be posting a new pic next week of the rear frame gusseting work. Only way to make these boats survive!

Rob has the motor in South Carolina with the 1976 Ford F100 truck i bought down there. He has been using the truck w/ the new house. Don't know if I can use it as a tow vehicle, being a Ford and all!! LOL

Dan, the lightest I had the 68 was a the minimum H/S weight or 3950. I added a 135 pound bar to the back to make I/S ! If you want i can e-mail you a pic of the rear work I did on the car so you can show your chassis man.

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Old 06-30-2013, 05:34 PM   #23
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Hey Joe, Sorry I made that comment about the Nova you and Ed ran never getting it to run like Billy Nees Nova. It was still a sweet ride and built right by you guys.

I also run into Ann's brother Eddie all the time now, at the meetings.

so what do you think? "Tuns of Fun" on the side?

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Old 06-30-2013, 05:48 PM   #24
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Hey Joe, good hearing from you. Yes, Carl is taking pictures and video. I will be posting a new pic next week of the rear frame gusseting work. Only way to make these boats survive!

Rob has the motor in South Carolina with the 1976 Ford F100 truck i bought down there. He has been using the truck w/ the new house. Don't know if I can use it as a tow vehicle, being a Ford and all!! LOL

Dan, the lightest I had the 68 was a the minimum H/S weight or 3950. I added a 135 pound bar to the back to make I/S ! If you want i can e-mail you a pic of the rear work I did on the car so you can show your chassis man.

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Old 06-30-2013, 06:53 PM   #25
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I'm diggin' this!!!!!
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:25 PM   #26
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That was the X - Frame 1958 - 1964 Chevy/BOP/Caddy
Yes the 58 got the X-frame as GM began installing heavier engines.
GM always boosted about the ride quality.
The Lower Links were angled toward the X-Frame and no Panhard Bar.
This frame required 2 - short drive shafts and a Center Link prone to snapping. (I know that so well)

65 - 76 went to H - Frame 4 Link set up with Panhard Bar.
Spring set on the Lower Suspension Link.
Used much heavier U-joints.

Then 77 up to 96 D / B Body used the earlier 1964 & up Chevelle/BOP Mid sized car H-Frame set up.
Upper Control Arms were angled eliminating the Panhard Bar.
Spring mounted on the Axle.

The 91-96 used a 8.5inch 10bolt that has a history of being very rugged.
Someone said you can put a larger 8.75 12 bolt Carrier in it.
Never understood why they were not put in Camaro/FB?
The Drive shaft rarely had any issues.
U-Joints lasted the life of the car regardless of abuse.
For racing gears just needed a balancing and the weight tab removed from the Yoke...and still keeping the original U-joints.

On my 1995 Impala SS purchased a Dick Miller Frame Connector for the upper and lower control arms.
Think he makes it for the Plus Sized cars too.

Hope this helps..

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For the record:

65-70 full size ..3 or 4 arm (right or both uppers). Panhard bar, and springs on trailing arms.
71-76 ..Std 4 trailing arm, springs on housing , except for f/s wagons ,which were leaf springs.
77-96 Std 4 trailing arms ....7.5 rear standard in these cars... even in f/s Chevy wagons.
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For the record:

65-70 full size ..3 or 4 arm (right or both uppers). Panhard bar, and springs on trailing arms.
71-76 ..Std 4 trailing arm, springs on housing , except for f/s wagons ,which were leaf springs.
77-96 Std 4 trailing arms ....7.5 rear standard in these cars... even in f/s Chevy wagons.
ahhh, so i'm NOT crazy (even though my mother had me tested )
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For the record:

65-70 full size ..3 or 4 arm (right or both uppers). Panhard bar, and springs on trailing arms.
71-76 ..Std 4 trailing arm, springs on housing , except for f/s wagons ,which were leaf springs.
77-96 Std 4 trailing arms ....7.5 rear standard in these cars... even in f/s Chevy wagons.
91-96 all got the 8.5 inch Rear, at least the 5.7 liter.
Have them on both my 94 Caprice Wagon an 95 Impala SS

The Camaro/FB got the little ones

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91-96 all got the 8.5 inch Rear, at least the 5.7 liter.
Have them on both my 94 Caprice Wagon an 95 Impala SS

The Camaro/FB got the little ones

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Nope....you didn't say 5.7 cars, which may be true.
305's came with 7.5's ...I had one...with a 2.56
That gives you about a 1.80 gear in OD..That's how it got 28 mpg @70 with the a/c on.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:39 AM   #30
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Yac -

My parents had an '86 Caprice 305 that came with a 2.29:1 7.5 rear axle. I drove them to the east coast to see my brother when that car was relatively new and it got 25-26 mpg @ 70 with A/C on consistently using an electronic Qjet carb! Amazing considering the aerodynamics of that body.
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