Lookin for NHRA Stock Class ET/MPH from 1970-71

[DeuceCoupe]

Hi there I hope this is a good place to ask this.

I am compiling an ET/MPH history of how all the old 1950-1970 iron ran back in the day.
The rules (and cars) changed so much after 1971 I am stopping there.
Cant do em all.
Today's ET/MPH have almost no relevance since the technology and rules are so different.

I have found that my Gonkulator program can do a decent job of estimating, but I like to have some ET/MPH data on a car to start with.


For example:
I have tons of "Road Test" data on the Ford 429tj/cj/scj cars, 90-106mph seems to be the range unless a plug wire was off.
The SCJ cars always run 100+ MPH.

But, I can find NOTHING on NHRA stock class times.
As examples I gonkulated the following but again have NO real data from back then, with 1970 NHRA class:

429/360 TJ auto: H/SA
13.24 at 104.0

429/360 TJ 4spd: H/S
12.90 at 107.0

429/375 SCJ 4spd: G/S
11.92 at 116.1

That's the kind of stuff I m looking for but REAL timeslip data.



I found a couple:
1970 LS6
11.49 at 120.1 C/S


1970 W30:
12.96 at 108.0 G/SA
I've searched the net and every book I can but very little on stock (or even super stock) 1970 cars from back then.
Any help appreciated!

[GTOMayhem]

Not sure if this will help by here are the NHRA records from June 1968

June 1968

NHRA Stock Class 'National Records'

A/S ........ 11.89 ...... 1966 Ford Fairlane - 427/410 HP
A/S ....... 117.95 ..... 1968 Chevrolet Camaro 'SS 396' - 396/375 HP

B/S ....... 12.23 ....... 1965 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP
B/S ....... 116.12 ..... 1966 Chevrolet Biscayne - 427/425 HP

C/S ....... 12.27 ....... 1962 Pontiac Catalina 'SD-421' - 421/405 HP
C/S ....... 114.64 ..... 1962 Pontiac Catalina 'SD-421' - 421/405 HP

D/S ....... 12.39 ....... 1968 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 'W-30' - 400/360 HP
D/S ....... 113.63 ..... 1968 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 'W-30' - 400/360 HP

E/S ....... 12.70 ....... 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass 'Ram Rod' - 350/325 HP
E/S ....... 107.65 ..... 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass 'Ram Rod' - 350/325 HP

F/S ....... 12.78 ....... 1961 Chevrolet Corvette - 283/270 HP
F/S ....... 107.47 ..... 1961 Chevrolet Corvette - 283/270 HP

G/S ...... 12.85 ........ 1957 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan Utility' - 283/283 HP
G/S ...... 107.14 ...... 1957 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan Utility' - 283/283 HP

H/S ....... 12.92 ...... 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air 'Sport Coupe' - 283/283 HP
H/S ....... 107.39 .... 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air 'Sport Coupe' - 283/283 HP

I/S ........ 13.11 ...... 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air 'Sport Coupe' - 283/270 HP
I/S ....... 104.28 ..... 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air 'Sport Coupe' - 283/270 HP

J/S ....... 13.14 ...... 1957 Chevrolet 'Beauville' Station Wagon - 283/283 HP
J/S ....... 105.50 .... 1957 Chevrolet 'Beauville' Station Wagon - 283/283 HP

K/S ...... 13.59 ...... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/245 HP
K/S ...... 101.35 .... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/245 HP

L/S ...... 13.73 ...... 1957 Chevrolet 'Townsman' Station Wagon- 283/245 HP
L/S ...... 100.78 .... 1957 Chevrolet 'Townsman' Station Wagon - 283/245 HP

M/S ..... 13.97 ...... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan' - 265/195 HP
M/S ..... 99.00 ...... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan' - 265/195 HP

N/S ..... 14.09 ...... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Handyman Special' - 265/195 HP
N/S ..... 97.82 ...... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Handyman Special' - 265/195 HP

O/S ..... 14.22 ..... 1955 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 265/180 HP
O/S ..... 96.67 ..... 1955 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 265/180 HP

P/S ...... 15.24 ..... 1954 Buick Century - 322/195 HP
P/S ...... 90.70 ..... 1959 Chevrolet Biscayne - 283/185 HP

Q/S ..... 16.00 ..... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Handyman Special' - 283/162 HP
Q/S ..... 84.74 ..... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Handyman Special' - 283/162 HP

R/S ..... 16.19 ...... 1953 Oldsmobile 'Super 88' - 303/165 HP
R/S ..... 82.15 ...... 1953 Oldsmobile 'Super 88' - 303/165 HP

T/S ..... 16.19 ...... 1954 Studebaker Commander - 232/120 HP
T/S ..... 84.19 ...... 1954 Studebaker Commander - 232/120 HP

U/S .... 16.78 ...... 1951 Oldsmobile 'Series 88' Club Coupe - 303/135 HP
U/S .... 81.22 ...... 1950 Oldsmobile 'Series 76' Station Wagon - 257/105 HP


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A/SA ..... 12.16 ....... 1967 Mercury Comet - 427/410 HP
A/SA .... 115.08 ...... 1967 Mercury Comet - 427/410 HP

B/SA .... 12.43 ........ 1963 Dodge #330 'Station Wagon' - 426/415 HP
B/SA .... 114.94 ...... 1963 Plymouth Belvedere 'Station Wagon' - 426/415 HP

C/SA .... 12.58 ....... 1962 Pontiac Catalina 'SD-421' - 421/405 HP
C/SA .... 112.78 ..... 1962 Pontiac Catalina 'SD-421' - 421/405 HP

D/SA .... 12.49 ....... 1968 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 'W-30' - 400/360 HP
D/SA .... 112.50 ..... 1968 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 'W-30' - 400/360 HP

E/SA .... 12.79 ....... 1968 Plymouth Barracuda - 340/275 HP
E/SA .... 109.75 ..... 1968 Plymouth Barracuda - 340/275 HP

F/SA .... 13.11 ........ 1957 Ford Custom 'Business Tudor' ~ 312/300 HP
F/SA .... 107.07 ...... 1960 Pontiac Catalina 'SD-389' - 389/363 HP

G/SA .... 13.50 ....... 1965 Pontiac Catalina - 421/356 HP
G/SA .... 107.82 ..... 1957 Ford Custom 'Tudor' - 312/300 HP

H/SA .... 13.40 ....... 1965 Chevrolet Impala 'Super Sport' - 327/300 HP
H/SA .... 107.45 ..... 1957 Ford Fairlane '500' - 312/300 HP

I/SA ..... 13.62 ....... 1960 Pontiac Bonneville - 389/333 HP
I/SA ..... 102.97 ..... 1957 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan Utility' - 283/250 HP

J/SA ..... 13.62 ....... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/250 HP
J/SA ..... 101.69 ..... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/250 HP

K/SA .... 13.80 ....... 1956 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan Utility' - 265/225 HP
K/SA .... 100.22 ..... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/245 HP

L/SA .... 14.05 ....... 1956 Chevrolet #150 'Handyman Special' - 265/225 HP
L/SA .... 97.93 ....... 1956 Chevrolet #150 'Handyman Special' - 265/225 HP

M/SA ... 14.48 ....... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/220 HP
M/SA ... 99.08 ....... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/220 HP

N/SA ... 14.67 ....... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan' - 265/195 HP
N/SA ... 95.04 ....... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan' - 265/195 HP

Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

[Rich Biebel]

H/S 1968 Chevy II NHRA record holder in 1970-1971. 350 Hi Compression engine, Muncie trans. Ran low 12.'s at 112 on an average run on 7" slicks. Weather conditions and the track itself played a big part in those numbers. Showroom stock street driven cars is a completely different story. Most muscle cars ran 14's and maybe some high 13's. Street tires were not usually going to allow fast et's back then. Limited et's on even the most powerful cars. Tracks were almost all asphalt. No concrete yet other than a very few places. Asphalt was fine in cool weather but terrible in the hot summer. 7" slicks were marginal on high HP stock cars back then. Big block cars routinely went pretty sideways sometimes off the line.

[DeuceCoupe]

Rick T,
Thanks, I have that June 1968 list already.
A "June 1970" list like that would be a gold mine.


Rich B,
Thanks, I have your Nova already at 12.25 at 114mph - a "good weather" day?

[Rich Biebel]

I have a 1970 record page somewhere. I'll look for it....It was from late in the year.

[oldskool]

As shown on that list, for C/SA, those old 421SD Pontiacs were quick, back in the '60's. No tellin how many national records they set, thru those years. I've read that Don Gay won A/S at the '63 US Nationals with a 12.81 @ 112 mph.

http://www.pontiacsonline.com/Don%20Gay.htm

http://www.hotrod.com/cars/featured/...na-super-duty/

This one is said to have set the national record with a 12.27 @ 114.64mph in C/S, in 1963.

http://www.supercars.net/blog/1963-p...-swiss-cheese/

There were also several 389 Pontiac wagon combos that set quite a few records.

http://www.hotrod.com/cars/new-car-r...reaking-bonne/

And, of course, their were lots of GTO's that set records, and won races. Knafel Pontiac & Royal Pontiac are 2 dealers that campaigned Pontiac drag cars.

http://www.hotrod.com/features/histo...n-pontiac-gto/

http://www.royalpontiac.org/royal%20...20history.html

http://geetotiger.com/jimwangers.htm

And, when the Firebirds came along, they too, set records and won races. But, some of these feats came along after your cut off date of '71.

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=14902

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

I have a 1970 record page somewhere. I'll look for it....It was from late in the year.

Thanks Rich !!!

[GTOMayhem]

Indy Auto Class winners 1970

[Rich Biebel]

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[Rich Biebel]

I have that record page on my desktop computer. Tried to post it but it was just not very readable. I will try making a bigger copy tomorrow at work and post it.