With respect to Steve Taylor, racing for package

Dragsinger · 11-08-2018, 08:27 PM

In the worse redlight post mention is made of "racing for package" Thus, a separate discussion.

Around 1998 Steve Taylor began promoting the worse red light rule. About 18 years later, the ideal came into reality.

He called the idea "Drag 2000" and explained to me the idea came to him while watching a big money bracket race and seeing a number of racers advance to the next round because the slower car was red.

In addition, part of his drag 2000 idea was to race for "package" His concept was the amount from perfect [either positive or negetive] would be your package number.

Example,

*racer #1 has a reaction of .020 and is .007 over dial. He has a .027 package
*racer #2 has a reaction of .498 and is .010 over dial. Racer #2 is the winner with a smaller .012 package

Mike Gray · 11-08-2018, 09:22 PM

Makes no sense. What if it was a heads up run?
If both lights were green you are racing for the package.
Your saying if both go red race for the package not who relighted worse?

Mike Jones · 11-09-2018, 07:33 AM

Example,

*racer #1 has a reaction of .020 and is .007 over dial. He has a .027 package
*racer #2 has a reaction of .498 and is .010 over dial. Racer #2 is the winner with a smaller .012

Is that -.002 red?

Mike

Bobby DiDomenico · 11-09-2018, 08:53 AM

"In addition, part of his drag 2000 idea was to race for "package" His concept was the amount from perfect [either positive or negetive] would be your package number."

I'd say yes. either side of .500 counts and is added as reaction time.

BG56 · 11-09-2018, 09:26 AM

Yawn.........

Dragsinger · 11-09-2018, 09:27 AM

Yes, the math is based on .500 so any numbers other than .500 totals your package. the numbers each side of .500 are added together.

A time slip with .490 red reaction and .010 over dial is a package of .020

A time slip with a .510 reaction and .010 over is a package of .020

[the win would be carried out to four or more decimal places]

Some years before his death Steve stayed three days at my shop and slept in my motorhome. During those three days, we talked constantly about drag racing and his thoughts and ideas. He was an interesting guy, sharp, and a good racer. He even did a powerglide build under my supervision

Steve was friends with the Accutime guy and was making a tour of the South, stopping at several tracks along the way.

Steve and I connected because his Drag 2000 idea was printed in the Texas Raceway at Kennedale race newspaper.

Dragsinger · 11-09-2018, 09:51 AM

http://dragraceresults.com/fullstory.cfm?id=3924&type=9

Dragsinger · 11-09-2018, 09:54 AM

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=30517

4406mopar · 11-09-2018, 12:35 PM

Makes no sense at all. The guy that redligts is declares the winner. That's Baloney.
I've never won anything going red, and I've tried it many times, LOL.

And to help us understand the comparison the lights should be listed as 520 and 498.
Or -002 and 020

CMcAllister · 11-09-2018, 02:29 PM

So, it would basically be making time runs all day since it wouldn't matter who actually crossed the stripe first?

11-09-2018, 07:33 AM	#3
Mike Jones VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,110 Likes: 1,166 Liked 660 Times in 283 Posts	Re: With respect to Steve Taylor, racing for package Example, racer #1 has a reaction of .020 and is .007 over dial. He has a .027 package racer #2 has a reaction of .498 and is .010 over dial. Racer #2 is the winner with a smaller .012 Is that -.002 red? Mike Last edited by Mike Jones; 11-09-2018 at 07:37 AM.

11-09-2018, 08:53 AM	#4
Bobby DiDomenico Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 907 Likes: 85 Liked 88 Times in 45 Posts	Re: With respect to Steve Taylor, racing for package "In addition, part of his drag 2000 idea was to race for "package" His concept was the amount from perfect [either positive or negetive] would be your package number." I'd say yes. either side of .500 counts and is added as reaction time.

11-09-2018, 09:26 AM	#5
BG56 Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 331 Likes: 434 Liked 274 Times in 100 Posts	Re: With respect to Steve Taylor, racing for package Yawn.........

11-09-2018, 09:27 AM	#6
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,759 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	Re: With respect to Steve Taylor, racing for package Yes, the math is based on .500 so any numbers other than .500 totals your package. the numbers each side of .500 are added together. A time slip with .490 red reaction and .010 over dial is a package of .020 A time slip with a .510 reaction and .010 over is a package of .020 [the win would be carried out to four or more decimal places] Some years before his death Steve stayed three days at my shop and slept in my motorhome. During those three days, we talked constantly about drag racing and his thoughts and ideas. He was an interesting guy, sharp, and a good racer. He even did a powerglide build under my supervision Steve was friends with the Accutime guy and was making a tour of the South, stopping at several tracks along the way. Steve and I connected because his Drag 2000 idea was printed in the Texas Raceway at Kennedale race newspaper. __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W

11-09-2018, 09:51 AM	#7
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,759 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	Re: With respect to Steve Taylor, racing for package http://dragraceresults.com/fullstory.cfm?id=3924&type=9 __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W

11-08-2018, 08:27 PM	#1
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,759 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	With respect to Steve Taylor, racing for package In the worse redlight post mention is made of "racing for package" Thus, a separate discussion. Around 1998 Steve Taylor began promoting the worse red light rule. About 18 years later, the ideal came into reality. He called the idea "Drag 2000" and explained to me the idea came to him while watching a big money bracket race and seeing a number of racers advance to the next round because the slower car was red. In addition, part of his drag 2000 idea was to race for "package" His concept was the amount from perfect [either positive or negetive] would be your package number. Example, racer #1 has a reaction of .020 and is .007 over dial. He has a .027 package racer #2 has a reaction of .498 and is .010 over dial. Racer #2 is the winner with a smaller .012 package __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W

11-08-2018, 09:22 PM	#2
Mike Gray Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 517 Likes: 220 Liked 496 Times in 133 Posts	Re: With respect to Steve Taylor, racing for package Makes no sense. What if it was a heads up run? If both lights were green you are racing for the package. Your saying if both go red race for the package not who relighted worse? Last edited by Mike Gray; 11-08-2018 at 09:35 PM.

11-09-2018, 09:54 AM	#8
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,759 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	Re: With respect to Steve Taylor, racing for package http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=30517 __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W

11-09-2018, 12:35 PM	#9
4406mopar Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 225 Likes: 165 Liked 109 Times in 48 Posts	Re: With respect to Steve Taylor, racing for package Makes no sense at all. The guy that redligts is declares the winner. That's Baloney. I've never won anything going red, and I've tried it many times, LOL. And to help us understand the comparison the lights should be listed as 520 and 498. Or -002 and 020 Last edited by 4406mopar; 11-09-2018 at 12:38 PM.

11-09-2018, 02:29 PM	#10
CMcAllister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fulton County, PA Posts: 530 Likes: 9 Liked 735 Times in 205 Posts	Re: With respect to Steve Taylor, racing for package So, it would basically be making time runs all day since it wouldn't matter who actually crossed the stripe first?