Super Stock GT... new rules

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

I know you're joking but header fit would be a nightmare, you would need at least a 1 3/4 / 1 7/8 step and there isn't even room for a 1 5/8. I think I'll stick with the 4 cylinder stuff.

I thought about it a few weeks ago!

There was a pristine, one owner Pinto for sale, with just faded paint and asking $1800.00 in Phoenix, Arizona. I believe the Mustang II headers fit the Pinto and they are available at least in 1-3/4" diameter. I thought it would be cool and paint it like one of Glidden's cars paint schemes!

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

Along with other strange rules, why does a Modified Stock need to be '67 or newer but a Modified can be any year? Also agree that it is strange that a SS/GT can only be V8?

It's probably a descendant of the old A/SM class.
That's the loophole that let the 67 Chevy II in, rather than Camaros only.
Right ,Garley Daniels?

[Jim Caughlin]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

I thought about it a few weeks ago!

There was a pristine, one owner Pinto for sale, with just faded paint and asking $1800.00 in Phoenix, Arizona. I believe the Mustang II headers fit the Pinto and they are available at least in 1-3/4" diameter. I thought it would be cool and paint it like one of Glidden's cars paint schemes!

Kind of wondering if the Pinto and Mustang 2 chassis are not quite the same, getting headers to clear the bellhousing area is almost nonexistant on the Pinto so that is the problem area for headers. As my 4 cylinder SS/FS Pinto has a SBF size bellhousing, I had to do a fenderwell type exit, that works on the left side but wouldn't work on the driver side.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

Kind of wondering if the Pinto and Mustang 2 chassis are not quite the same, getting headers to clear the bellhousing area is almost nonexistant on the Pinto so that is the problem area for headers. As my 4 cylinder SS/FS Pinto has a SBF size bellhousing, I had to do a fenderwell type exit, that works on the left side but wouldn't work on the driver side.

Saw a guy at a bracket race with a Pinto and he had Dart heads on his SBF engine. He shared he had Mustang II headers and they fit like a glove. He also had a C-4.
Is the SFI stick shift bellhousing larger than a C-4 bellhousing?

[SSDiv6]

Another clarification that was added for 2021 is regarding fuel checks...it is the sole responsibility of the racer.

SECTION 2: WEIGHING OF VEHICLE/FUEL CHECK (Page 11) (12/3/2020)
It is always the responsibility of the racer to stop at the scales and fuel
check to confirm with tech officials whether their car needs to be weighed
or it’s fuel needs tested. Under no circumstances may a competitor reject
scaling his or her vehicle or fuel check. Any competitor who runs quicker than
any of his or her previous runs during the event in Top Fuel, Funny Car, Pro
Stock, Pro Stock Motorcycle, Top Alcohol Dragster, Top Alcohol Funny Car, Pro
Mod, Comp, Super Stock, or Stock and fails to report to post-run inspection
(scales or fuel check) will be disqualified from the event. The event will be
charged against the competitor’s points events with a zero (0) point counting
toward the driver’s claimed races.

[Tom Meyer]

It's probably a descendant of the old A/SM class.
That's the loophole that let the 67 Chevy II in, rather than Camaros only.
Right ,Garley Daniels? My car is an old Garley Daniels, but his cars were C/SM. Still have the glass hood and 67 fenders and grill in the rafters of my garage. Tom

[Jim Caughlin]

Originally Posted by Tom Meyer

It's probably a descendant of the old A/SM class.
That's the loophole that let the 67 Chevy II in, rather than Camaros only.
Right ,Garley Daniels? My car is an old Garley Daniels, but his cars were C/SM. Tom

I also wonder if it's intent was to keep the early Corvettes out? As you may recall, early Corvettes in that era dominated the Modified ranks particularly because of engine setback. If you recall, Super Mod had a 10.5 tire rule so the Corvettes would have had a distinct traction advantage.

[Jim Caughlin]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

Another clarification that was added for 2021 is regarding fuel checks...it is the sole responsibility of the racer.

SECTION 2: WEIGHING OF VEHICLE/FUEL CHECK (Page 11) (12/3/2020)
It is always the responsibility of the racer to stop at the scales and fuel
check to confirm with tech officials whether their car needs to be weighed
or it’s fuel needs tested. Under no circumstances may a competitor reject
scaling his or her vehicle or fuel check. Any competitor who runs quicker than
any of his or her previous runs during the event in Top Fuel, Funny Car, Pro
Stock, Pro Stock Motorcycle, Top Alcohol Dragster, Top Alcohol Funny Car, Pro
Mod, Comp, Super Stock, or Stock and fails to report to post-run inspection
(scales or fuel check) will be disqualified from the event. The event will be
charged against the competitor’s points events with a zero (0) point counting
toward the driver’s claimed races.

How 'bout lobbing weight bars out of the trunk before you get to the scale? It's not in the rulebook so it must be legal? Asking for a fellow racer...

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

How 'bout lobbing weight bars out of the trunk before you get to the scale? It's not in the rulebook so it must be legal? Asking for a fellow racer...

.......Also, don’t forget about DUMPING the water out of the radiator....good for a few pounds....

[Steve Stickel]

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

I also wonder if it's intent was to keep the early Corvettes out? As you may recall, early Corvettes in that era dominated the Modified ranks particularly because of engine setback. If you recall, Super Mod had a 10.5 tire rule so the Corvettes would have had a distinct traction advantage.

Yep, 67 or newer 2dr only, fiberglass limited to hood only, and minimum wheelbase of around 101 " if I remember correctly. Enough to keep the Corvettes out of Super Modified.