2 tenths?

[JEFF ESSMANN]

instead of dropping the index 2 tenths they should of dropped the ahfs 2 tenths then started trying to correct all the soft combos by dropping the index all they are doing is elimanating all the lower qualifiers from competing on a national level

[Mark Tallent]

Tgriffith? are you sure you are getting "Screwed" or just that your is slow and you need to make it faster?

[tgriffith]

mark,,I m not sure I understand the question,,,,but I`ll answer it like this ,,I dont consider my self getting screwed,,,I just question the rule and how it applys to me,,,I think that building a stocker is part of the game this may affect racers like me who have limited knowledge with stockers or I should say beginners,,,,,a far as the rule effecting whether or not I can race stock,,,it doesnt,,,,,,I can purchase any stocker out there thats for sale and dont have to barrow the money to do it

[Bud Lefevre]

[QUOTE=Jack McCarthy;41702]the last time the indexes were adjusted they went UP about .15...

since then we (stock) have been given
unlimited duration
unlimited vale springs
electric water pumps / fans
liteweight brakes
aftermarket ignitions
aftermarket pulleys
ultra lite wheels
radial slicks
... i miss anything ?

Polished valves. Removal of heaters, wiper motors, wheelie bars, fuel cells.

[Dwight Southerland]

Originally Posted by Bud Lefevre

since then we (stock) have been given
unlimited duration
unlimited vale springs
electric water pumps / fans
liteweight brakes
aftermarket ignitions
aftermarket pulleys
ultra lite wheels
radial slicks
... i miss anything ?

Polished valves. Removal of heaters, wiper motors, wheelie bars, fuel cells.

LOTS of piston choices
+.030" bore
Better tires
LOTS of technology improvement in clutches, converters and transmissions
Data recorders, O2 sensors, exhaust heat monitoring, etc.

[herbjr]

How about a racer telling me when I said "why did you show your hand in class when the guy went red/"

He said........"it was second round of class I started to go 1.50 under just to piss people off but I lifted and only went 1.30 under." Why does 2nd round of class not count towrad AHFS. That has to be the stupidest thing I ever heard.


Herb Jr

[Ron Ortiz]

This is what the results are by lowering the indexes 2 tenths.

BEFORE AFTER

#1 B/FIA -1.102 #1 B/FIA -.902
#2 D/SA -1.100 #2 D/SA -.900
#3 A/SA -1.007 #3 A/SA -.807
#4 B/FS -1.002 #4 B/FS -.802
#5 E/FIA -.980 #5 E/FIA -780

#94 G/SA -.193 #94 G/SA -.007
#95 L/SA -.120 #95 L/SA +.080
#96 K/S -.004 #96 K/S +.196

What's the difference. The spread is still the same, #1 is still #1, #2 is still #2 etc.
The only people this affects is the bottom of the qualifying sheet. Those who cannot run on or under are sitting ducks. When it comes to eliminations, the handicaps are going to remain the same, regardless of qualifying position. The only thing this does is inflate the egos. "I can go 95 under" vs "I can go 1.15 under"
It is still the same ratio.
I truly believe this is a result of really fast cars not wanting to hit the trigger and are looking for a way out.

The heck with it, just lower the indexes one full second, eliminate the trigger system, and reduce the classes to 3. A/Stock B/Stock C/Stock. Eliminate tech and employ a lie detector

Ron Ortiz
U/SA taking the fun out of stock

[Dick Butler]

If you dont mind a comment from a non racer at this point, it seems THE comment on this thread that could be the most constructive is the one about lowering the AHFS trigger et. Obviously fast people who have worked hard on their cars would be against it at first but it would also make the poorly factored cars come back in line more quickly. It would need more class racing to bring up the need to run fast or maybe just the challenge of fast qualifying to make it work but it would level the field quicker.
This would also take NHRA tech out of the factoring business more. If they made it too low hp and someone built it, it would be adjusted quickly by its own performance, not waiting for someone in tech to care about it killing the other heavily factored cars in the classes.
The 2 tenths off is a good idea as it 1) resets the goal being number 1 to a more reasonable number
and 2) keeps from really creating a unreasonable goal for the beginner. Everyone running today started out slow and worked into the ets we see from experience and hard work.

Eddie O'brian said.... "Try this it will fix the problem . Put a $ 1000.00 claim on heads ! You provide good core and they keep the
valves and springs you trade bare heads for bare heads .Have a nice day"

[james schaechter]

How much are bare max wedge heads Jerry?