69 Ford Torino Cobra - Page 3

69Cobra · 11-08-2011, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Alex and 69 Cobra,,,,

Excellent analysis,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Speed Age got the car to run a best of 13.18 @ 109.5 MPH

Average times were in the 13.20's @ 108 MPH.

The Rev-Limiter was put in for a 'reason', obviously...as the test
was controlled and observed by a 'neurotic and extremely nervous'
Ford Dealer representative.

The Speed Age Magazine car-testers came to the conclussion;
* removal of the Rev-Limiter,
* install 7" 'M & H' slicks on 15" x 6" rims
* thinner front tires 7.35 x 15"
* tweak the Holley 780 CFM carburetor

Estimated Performance; 12.80's @ 112 MPH.

LOL Glad I got that one right. If not I would have had to change my screen name

X-TECH MAN · 11-08-2011, 03:14 PM

My late friend Gene Collins raced a "Box Top" 69 non ram air (flat hood) 428 CJ Fairlane when new after he sold his 271 HP 66 Mustang. He ran in the 10.5 lb class which was H/SA at that time (F/SA today) against the 62 Dodge 383/343 HP wagons. With the 4.30 gears that came in it and everything else as Ford built it he ran 13.30's on OEM street tires. With headers and 7 inch tires he was in the high12.90 and 13.0 range. After we did the heads it ran 12.60's. We then put a 3000 stall 10 inch converter in along with a shift kit in the C-6 and a regrind stocker cam then ran under the record with 12.40's using the OEM stock short block The record at that time was 12.65 set by the "Behemouth" 62 Dodge wagon of Pratt and Burkett. He won enough to pay his bills when he was laid of at work racing at Capitol and Aquasco raceway back then. It was a great car.

Paul Ceasrine · 11-08-2011, 06:09 PM

Forgot to add,,,,,,,,,,,the price of the car as tested.

1969 Ford Torino Cobra 'Hardtop Coupe,,,,,,3208
* Cobra-Jet Package,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,28 7
* Bucket Seats,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,54
* GT Handling Package,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,30
* Tachometer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,48
* Close-Ratio 4-Speed Transmission,,,,,,,,,,,,,,195
* Drag-Pack,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,155
Total,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,$3977

* Traction Drag-Pack II,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,304
* Drive-Train Drag-Pack III,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,295
* Free-Flow Exhaust Drag-Pack IV,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,208
* Hi-Rev Engine Drag-Pack V,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,685

Total Cost,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,$5469

Paul Ceasrine · 11-09-2011, 09:24 PM

Richard Petty in the 1969 Ford Torino Cobra Fastback 'SportsRoof'.

Richard Petty's first race in the 1969 Ford Torino Cobra
February 1, 1969
Motor Trend 500
Riverside International Raceway (California)
He Won!

Paul Ceasrine · 11-14-2011, 11:47 AM

INC.

The 1969 Ford Torino Cobra (proper name).

Available with the;
428 Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air)
428 Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air)
or
428 Super Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air)
428 Super Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air)

The standard 428/335 HP Cobra-Jet came through with 3.50 Gears,
and an Open-end differential.

Optional Gear-ratios from the factory; 3.25, 3.90 and 4.30.
4.11 Gears were available, but 'dealer installed only'.

The Super Cobra-Jet engine was available with the Drag-Pack,
which included;
* the special externally balanced 428 engine
* engine oil-cooler
* 3.90 or 4.30 Gears with/Traction-Lock differential

Transmissions;
Wide-ratio 4-speed (2.78 / 1.93 / 1.36 / 1.00)
Close-ratio 4-Speed (2.32 / 1.69 / 1.29 / 1.00)
Clutch-plate (11 1/2")

C-6 Automatic (2.46 / 1.46 / 1.00)
Torque-Converter (1800 RPM Stall-speed)

Tires;
F-70 x 14"

Paul Ceasrine · 11-14-2011, 01:23 PM

Magazine Performance Tests;

Road Test
428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.50 Gears
Results; 15.07 @ 94 MPH

Motor Trend
428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.50 Gears
Results; 14.90 @ 95 MPH

Car Craft
428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.50 Gears
Results; 14.81 @ 96 MPH

Popular Mechanics
428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.50 Gears
Results; 14.75 @ 96 MPH

Popular Hot Rodding
428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.91 Gears
Results; 14.52 @ 97 MPH

Motor Trend
428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 3.91 Gears
(with Hurst Shifter)
Results; 14.50 @ 99.5 MPH

Car and Track
428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.91 Gears
Results; 14.40 @ 101 MPH

Car and Driver
428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.91 Gears
Drag-Pack I
Results; 14.27 @ 99 MPH

Cars Magazine
428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.91 Gears
Drag-Pack I
Results; 14.20 @ 101 MPH

Hot Rod
428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 4.11 Gears
Dealer-installed 4.11 Gears
Results; 14.09 @ 101 MPH

Super Stock & Drag Illustrated
428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 3.91 gears
Results; 14.04 @ 100.6 MPH

Car Life
428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 4.11 Gears
Dealer-installed 4.11 gears
Results; 13.93 @ 101.5 MPH

Motor Trend
428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 4.30 Gears
Drag-Pack I (Press Test car)
Results; 13.88 @ 101 MPH

Detroit Auto News
428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air) C-6 Automatic, 4.30 Gears
Drag-Pack I (Press Test Car)
Results; 13.81 @ 102.3 MPH

Super Stock and Funny Car
428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 4.30 Gears
Drag-Pack I
Results; 13.79 @ 103.5 MPH

Rodder and Super Stock
428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 4.30 Gears
Drag-Pack I (Press Test Car w/Slicks)
7" GoodYear Slicks on 14" x 6" rims
Results; 13.59 @ 105.1 MPH

Popular Hot Rodding
428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed close-ratio, 4.30 Gears
Equipped with; Headers, Aluminum Intake manifold, Dual-point distributor and 7" M & H Slicks
mounted on 15" x 6" rims
Results; 13.27 @ 108.3 MPH

Speed Age
428/335 HP (Q-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, non Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 4.30 Gears
Drag-Pack (I thru V) (Detroit Dealership-prepped car)
G60 x 15" Tires on 15" x 7" rims
Results; 13.18 @ 109.5 MPH

69Cobra · 11-14-2011, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

INC.

The 1969 Ford Torino Cobra (proper name).

I believe the title says Ford for make and Cobra for model if I recall. No Fairlane or Torino on it at all.

Paul Ceasrine · 11-15-2011, 12:49 PM

1969 Ford Torino Cobra Performance Test;

August 1968
Car and Track

August 1968
Speed and Supercar

February 1969
Super Stock & Drag Illustrated

March 1969
Car Craft

May 1969
Speed Age

February 1970
Super Stock & Funny Car

Marty Burke · 11-17-2011, 03:08 PM

Kris is correct. In 1969 the Cobra was its own model, it was neither a Torino or Fairlane
It was also the base car used for the Talladega. To tell the difference just read the 3rd & 4th letter of the vin
EX: 9A42Rxxxxxx

Fairlane Fastback 35
Torino GT fastback 42
Cobra Fastback 46

Formal roof
Fairlane 30
Fairlane 500 33
Torino GT 44
Cobra 45
These cars are starting to get more valuable everyday
Regards,
Marty Burke
1969 Talladega {Maroon}
1969 Talladega {white}
1969 Torino GT {R code 4 speed}
1969 Torino GT {Q code auto}
1969 Cobra R code
1969 Cyclone R code
1969 Cyclone Spoiler II {Gurney}
1969 Cyclone Spoiler {Cale}
All still in the garage

69Cobra · 11-17-2011, 03:37 PM

Wow nice collection Mr. Burke. I would also like to add the 69 Cobra hardtop or formal roof was a 45 code for the 3rd and 4th numbers.

11-08-2011, 03:14 PM	#22
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,207 Likes: 1,049 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: 69 Ford Torino Cobra My late friend Gene Collins raced a "Box Top" 69 non ram air (flat hood) 428 CJ Fairlane when new after he sold his 271 HP 66 Mustang. He ran in the 10.5 lb class which was H/SA at that time (F/SA today) against the 62 Dodge 383/343 HP wagons. With the 4.30 gears that came in it and everything else as Ford built it he ran 13.30's on OEM street tires. With headers and 7 inch tires he was in the high12.90 and 13.0 range. After we did the heads it ran 12.60's. We then put a 3000 stall 10 inch converter in along with a shift kit in the C-6 and a regrind stocker cam then ran under the record with 12.40's using the OEM stock short block The record at that time was 12.65 set by the "Behemouth" 62 Dodge wagon of Pratt and Burkett. He won enough to pay his bills when he was laid of at work racing at Capitol and Aquasco raceway back then. It was a great car.

11-08-2011, 06:09 PM	#23
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 69 Ford Torino Cobra Forgot to add,,,,,,,,,,,the price of the car as tested. 1969 Ford Torino Cobra 'Hardtop Coupe,,,,,,3208 * Cobra-Jet Package,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,28 7 * Bucket Seats,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,54 * GT Handling Package,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,30 * Tachometer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,48 * Close-Ratio 4-Speed Transmission,,,,,,,,,,,,,,195 * Drag-Pack,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,155 Total,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,$3977 * Traction Drag-Pack II,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,304 * Drive-Train Drag-Pack III,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,295 * Free-Flow Exhaust Drag-Pack IV,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,208 * Hi-Rev Engine Drag-Pack V,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,685 Total Cost,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,$5469 Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 11-09-2011 at 11:19 AM.

11-09-2011, 09:24 PM	#24
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 69 Ford Torino Cobra Richard Petty in the 1969 Ford Torino Cobra Fastback 'SportsRoof'. Richard Petty's first race in the 1969 Ford Torino Cobra February 1, 1969 Motor Trend 500 Riverside International Raceway (California) He Won! Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 11-09-2011 at 09:34 PM.

11-14-2011, 11:47 AM	#25
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 69 Ford Torino Cobra INC. The 1969 Ford Torino Cobra (proper name). Available with the; 428 Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air) 428 Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air) or 428 Super Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air) 428 Super Cobra-Jet, 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air) The standard 428/335 HP Cobra-Jet came through with 3.50 Gears, and an Open-end differential. Optional Gear-ratios from the factory; 3.25, 3.90 and 4.30. 4.11 Gears were available, but 'dealer installed only'. The Super Cobra-Jet engine was available with the Drag-Pack, which included; * the special externally balanced 428 engine * engine oil-cooler * 3.90 or 4.30 Gears with/Traction-Lock differential Transmissions; Wide-ratio 4-speed (2.78 / 1.93 / 1.36 / 1.00) Close-ratio 4-Speed (2.32 / 1.69 / 1.29 / 1.00) Clutch-plate (11 1/2") C-6 Automatic (2.46 / 1.46 / 1.00) Torque-Converter (1800 RPM Stall-speed) Tires; F-70 x 14" Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 11-14-2011 at 12:12 PM.

11-14-2011, 01:23 PM	#26
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 69 Ford Torino Cobra Magazine Performance Tests; Road Test 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.50 Gears Results; 15.07 @ 94 MPH Motor Trend 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.50 Gears Results; 14.90 @ 95 MPH Car Craft 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.50 Gears Results; 14.81 @ 96 MPH Popular Mechanics 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.50 Gears Results; 14.75 @ 96 MPH Popular Hot Rodding 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.91 Gears Results; 14.52 @ 97 MPH Motor Trend 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 3.91 Gears (with Hurst Shifter) Results; 14.50 @ 99.5 MPH Car and Track 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 3.91 Gears Results; 14.40 @ 101 MPH Car and Driver 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.91 Gears Drag-Pack I Results; 14.27 @ 99 MPH Cars Magazine 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 3.91 Gears Drag-Pack I Results; 14.20 @ 101 MPH Hot Rod 428/335 HP (Q-Code, non Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 4.11 Gears Dealer-installed 4.11 Gears Results; 14.09 @ 101 MPH Super Stock & Drag Illustrated 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 3.91 gears Results; 14.04 @ 100.6 MPH Car Life 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Wide-ratio, 4.11 Gears Dealer-installed 4.11 gears Results; 13.93 @ 101.5 MPH Motor Trend 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 4.30 Gears Drag-Pack I (Press Test car) Results; 13.88 @ 101 MPH Detroit Auto News 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air) C-6 Automatic, 4.30 Gears Drag-Pack I (Press Test Car) Results; 13.81 @ 102.3 MPH Super Stock and Funny Car 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 4.30 Gears Drag-Pack I Results; 13.79 @ 103.5 MPH Rodder and Super Stock 428/335 HP (R-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, Ram-Air), C-6 Automatic, 4.30 Gears Drag-Pack I (Press Test Car w/Slicks) 7" GoodYear Slicks on 14" x 6" rims Results; 13.59 @ 105.1 MPH Popular Hot Rodding 428/335 HP (R-Code, Ram-Air), 4-Speed close-ratio, 4.30 Gears Equipped with; Headers, Aluminum Intake manifold, Dual-point distributor and 7" M & H Slicks mounted on 15" x 6" rims Results; 13.27 @ 108.3 MPH Speed Age 428/335 HP (Q-Code, Super Cobra-Jet, non Ram-Air), 4-Speed Close-ratio, 4.30 Gears Drag-Pack (I thru V) (Detroit Dealership-prepped car) G60 x 15" Tires on 15" x 7" rims Results; 13.18 @ 109.5 MPH Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 11-15-2011 at 01:41 PM.

11-15-2011, 12:49 PM	#28
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 69 Ford Torino Cobra 1969 Ford Torino Cobra Performance Test; August 1968 Car and Track August 1968 Speed and Supercar February 1969 Super Stock & Drag Illustrated March 1969 Car Craft May 1969 Speed Age February 1970 Super Stock & Funny Car Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 11-15-2011 at 01:20 PM.

11-17-2011, 03:08 PM	#29
Marty Burke Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Leonard Tx Posts: 25 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 69 Ford Torino Cobra Kris is correct. In 1969 the Cobra was its own model, it was neither a Torino or Fairlane It was also the base car used for the Talladega. To tell the difference just read the 3rd & 4th letter of the vin EX: 9A42Rxxxxxx Fairlane Fastback 35 Torino GT fastback 42 Cobra Fastback 46 Formal roof Fairlane 30 Fairlane 500 33 Torino GT 44 Cobra 45 These cars are starting to get more valuable everyday Regards, Marty Burke 1969 Talladega {Maroon} 1969 Talladega {white} 1969 Torino GT {R code 4 speed} 1969 Torino GT {Q code auto} 1969 Cobra R code 1969 Cyclone R code 1969 Cyclone Spoiler II {Gurney} 1969 Cyclone Spoiler {Cale} All still in the garage

11-17-2011, 03:37 PM	#30
69Cobra Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California, Ky Posts: 667 Likes: 28 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 69 Ford Torino Cobra Wow nice collection Mr. Burke. I would also like to add the 69 Cobra hardtop or formal roof was a 45 code for the 3rd and 4th numbers. __________________ Kris Rachford 69 Cobra 428CJ 4 Speed C/S 3032