Dart SHP Race block

SST159 · 01-16-2010, 09:27 AM

Any input out there on the Dart SHP race block, Pros and Cons vs the Dart Little M.
SBC High 9 sec car 2800 lbs.

Bryan Gillespie · 01-16-2010, 04:29 PM

Drew just got back from Billy T house and he bought 1 and is really pleased with block, he is building a 415 ci and block looks strong.

SlickVic · 01-16-2010, 04:54 PM

The dart website says its only good for 600 hp, and i talked to a dart tech that said they are conservative and he would trust it to 700 hp. Now, i have seen a NOS equipped run almost 1000 hp on a SHP and have no problem and you could say the same about some stock gm blocks. Shop around for the little M's and you can get awesome prices. I was able to acquire a dart little M steel billet cap block for about 600$ more than the shp. Also the SHP can't be bored as big as the little M.

SST159 · 01-16-2010, 06:21 PM

Thanks for the input guys.
I think I am going with the SHP.
Dart tells me it is good for at least 700 HP and has way more meat and stronger than the GM blocks. (even the older high nickel blocks)
I was leaning toward the Little M however the weight swayed me away as it is 40 -50 lbs heavier than my GM block which will mess up my chassis tune up. The SHP is only about 15 lbs more than my block.
50 lbs will put the snubbers on the frame. I doubt I will ever push more than 700 HP at it.
BTW My compliments to Dart.
The guy I spoke with spent a good hour on the phone with me and intellegently answered every important question I had.
Great job Dart!
Any other feed back, bring it on.
Thanks

SlickVic · 01-16-2010, 07:26 PM

Ship weight on my little m was like 205 i believe. Summit says SHP is 175 lbs. But i need all the weight i can get up front to keep the nose down!

d1hitter · 01-16-2010, 07:32 PM

Longer IC will fix that problem.

SlickVic · 01-16-2010, 07:34 PM

yeah but i found its not as consistent..ive got to find a happy medium. Didn't have time to play this year much. Am planning on renting a track with some others and do nothing but suspension changes all day.

skj283 · 01-21-2010, 11:35 PM

i dont have any personal experience with them but a roundy roundy friend of mine was looking into them and had a couple machinists say they are brittle. said the block breaks up into pieces during a problem like a thrown rod or whatever. and yes i know they all do but apparantly the machinist felt it was worse than any he had seen in a similar situation.

SST159 · 01-23-2010, 12:36 PM

HMMM very interesting.
How about some more input out there!

Peanuts · 01-26-2010, 05:43 PM

Just bought one. Looks to be alot better than the money I threw away on a 400 block. Good looking casting, blind bolt holes, thick deck and cyl. walls.

01-16-2010, 09:27 AM	#1
SST159 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 301 Likes: 4 Liked 18 Times in 12 Posts	Dart SHP Race block Any input out there on the Dart SHP race block, Pros and Cons vs the Dart Little M. SBC High 9 sec car 2800 lbs. __________________ Drew Wonderly SST 159

01-16-2010, 04:29 PM	#2
Bryan Gillespie Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 456 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block Drew just got back from Billy T house and he bought 1 and is really pleased with block, he is building a 415 ci and block looks strong.

01-16-2010, 04:54 PM	#3
SlickVic Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 81 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block The dart website says its only good for 600 hp, and i talked to a dart tech that said they are conservative and he would trust it to 700 hp. Now, i have seen a NOS equipped run almost 1000 hp on a SHP and have no problem and you could say the same about some stock gm blocks. Shop around for the little M's and you can get awesome prices. I was able to acquire a dart little M steel billet cap block for about 600$ more than the shp. Also the SHP can't be bored as big as the little M. __________________ 87 Cavalier, 92 Corvette, 72 Nova, 68 Firebird

01-16-2010, 06:21 PM	#4
SST159 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 301 Likes: 4 Liked 18 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block Thanks for the input guys. I think I am going with the SHP. Dart tells me it is good for at least 700 HP and has way more meat and stronger than the GM blocks. (even the older high nickel blocks) I was leaning toward the Little M however the weight swayed me away as it is 40 -50 lbs heavier than my GM block which will mess up my chassis tune up. The SHP is only about 15 lbs more than my block. 50 lbs will put the snubbers on the frame. I doubt I will ever push more than 700 HP at it. BTW My compliments to Dart. The guy I spoke with spent a good hour on the phone with me and intellegently answered every important question I had. Great job Dart! Any other feed back, bring it on. Thanks __________________ Drew Wonderly SST 159

01-16-2010, 07:26 PM	#5
SlickVic Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 81 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block Ship weight on my little m was like 205 i believe. Summit says SHP is 175 lbs. But i need all the weight i can get up front to keep the nose down! __________________ 87 Cavalier, 92 Corvette, 72 Nova, 68 Firebird

01-16-2010, 07:32 PM	#6
d1hitter Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: @ the track Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block Longer IC will fix that problem.

01-16-2010, 07:34 PM	#7
SlickVic Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 81 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block yeah but i found its not as consistent..ive got to find a happy medium. Didn't have time to play this year much. Am planning on renting a track with some others and do nothing but suspension changes all day. __________________ 87 Cavalier, 92 Corvette, 72 Nova, 68 Firebird

01-21-2010, 11:35 PM	#8
skj283 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 11 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block i dont have any personal experience with them but a roundy roundy friend of mine was looking into them and had a couple machinists say they are brittle. said the block breaks up into pieces during a problem like a thrown rod or whatever. and yes i know they all do but apparantly the machinist felt it was worse than any he had seen in a similar situation.

01-23-2010, 12:36 PM	#9
SST159 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 301 Likes: 4 Liked 18 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block HMMM very interesting. How about some more input out there! __________________ Drew Wonderly SST 159

01-26-2010, 05:43 PM	#10
Peanuts Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lavalette, West Virginia Posts: 3 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block Just bought one. Looks to be alot better than the money I threw away on a 400 block. Good looking casting, blind bolt holes, thick deck and cyl. walls.