Over Staging - Page 4

1347 · 02-16-2021, 09:04 PM

I am reading and interpreting the rule as if you stage the car and go in so far that you turn off the top bulb, or “ deep stage” that you are now disqualified. You do not have the ability to back up and restage.
Is that not what some are thinking it means?

Keith 944 · 02-16-2021, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 1347

I am reading and interpreting the rule as if you stage the car and go in so far that you turn off the top bulb, or “ deep stage” that you are now disqualified. You do not have the ability to back up and restage.
Is that not what some are thinking it means?

if you have turned off the top bulb and bottom you are out of the beams. this is over stage, and now is illegal to try to re-stage
Deep is just that, deep, (only bottom bulb lit) and will get a red if tree is activated.

Mark Yacavone · 02-16-2021, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith 944

if you have turned off the top bulb and bottom you are out of the beams. this is over stage, and now is illegal to try to re-stage
Deep is just that, deep, (only bottom bulb lit) and will get a red if tree is activated.

Is this a big problem for somebody , then?
I've watched thousands of rounds, and rarely ever see this.

Keith 944 · 02-17-2021, 08:00 AM

For stock and many other classes I think it’s merely a mistake when it happens however I have seen a lot of dragsters backing into the beams without clearing the bottom bulb

j gardiner · 02-17-2021, 08:44 AM

Just when you thought you had lost a race every way possible.

1347 · 02-17-2021, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith 944

if you have turned off the top bulb and bottom you are out of the beams. this is over stage, and now is illegal to try to re-stage
Deep is just that, deep, (only bottom bulb lit) and will get a red if tree is activated.

I would like to hear someone from NHRA explain the rule. My interpretation as soon you shut off the top bulb you are DQd, you dont have to go any farther than that. Only my perception, but NHRA knows what they meant when they posted it, It's just our job to figure it out before someone goes deep to stage and finds out. Especially if you are a person that does that.

Keith 944 · 02-17-2021, 11:46 AM

Lol I agree. Just go to your first race and roll through the beams see if you get disqualified

Jim Bailey · 02-17-2021, 12:10 PM

I could be wrong but, NHRA is not going to put themselves in a situation where the starter is making the call. It has to be an automatic, electronic determination of error. My guess is... if you deep stage at anytime during your staging process, you'll get the gift of a red light. You'll no longer be able to back up and start over, even if your opponent hasn't staged yet.

GTS340 · 02-18-2021, 01:23 AM

The only thing I’ve found is that it’s nothing new, it’s been in the rulebook forever; maybe something that will be enforced now.

GTS340 · 02-18-2021, 01:50 AM

After your burnout, roll up to the line, light one bulb on the tree. Do not light the second bulb until the car in the other lane has at least lit one bulb. They can roll in and light both bulbs if you already have one lit but nobody should light both bulbs until the other car has one lit.

Best I can find

02-16-2021, 09:04 PM	#31
1347 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Monroe Twp NJ Posts: 453 Likes: 925 Liked 925 Times in 240 Posts	Re: Over Staging I am reading and interpreting the rule as if you stage the car and go in so far that you turn off the top bulb, or “ deep stage” that you are now disqualified. You do not have the ability to back up and restage. Is that not what some are thinking it means? __________________ Duane Hoven 1342 SS/GT

02-17-2021, 08:00 AM	#34
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,116 Likes: 1,004 Liked 1,649 Times in 521 Posts	Re: Over Staging For stock and many other classes I think it’s merely a mistake when it happens however I have seen a lot of dragsters backing into the beams without clearing the bottom bulb __________________ KEITH MAYERS 2 X somebody many X nobody

02-17-2021, 08:44 AM	#35
j gardiner Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: waldorf Posts: 194 Likes: 9 Liked 11 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Over Staging Just when you thought you had lost a race every way possible.

02-17-2021, 11:46 AM	#37
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,116 Likes: 1,004 Liked 1,649 Times in 521 Posts	Re: Over Staging Lol I agree. Just go to your first race and roll through the beams see if you get disqualified __________________ KEITH MAYERS 2 X somebody many X nobody

02-17-2021, 12:10 PM	#38
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 699 Likes: 17 Liked 570 Times in 107 Posts	Re: Over Staging I could be wrong but, NHRA is not going to put themselves in a situation where the starter is making the call. It has to be an automatic, electronic determination of error. My guess is... if you deep stage at anytime during your staging process, you'll get the gift of a red light. You'll no longer be able to back up and start over, even if your opponent hasn't staged yet.

02-18-2021, 01:23 AM	#39
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 747 Likes: 183 Liked 1,069 Times in 334 Posts	Re: Over Staging The only thing I’ve found is that it’s nothing new, it’s been in the rulebook forever; maybe something that will be enforced now.

02-18-2021, 01:50 AM	#40
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 747 Likes: 183 Liked 1,069 Times in 334 Posts	Re: Over Staging After your burnout, roll up to the line, light one bulb on the tree. Do not light the second bulb until the car in the other lane has at least lit one bulb. They can roll in and light both bulbs if you already have one lit but nobody should light both bulbs until the other car has one lit. Best I can find