2018 FS showdown posted.

[Nmbr1GMfan]

http://nhraracer.com/content/general...342&zoneid=132


"Those not qualifying will not be permitted to run in the Stock eliminator as in past years".

[BRETV]

Did I read this right? Any year engine in any body as long it's the same manufacturer??




Bret Velde
2003 SS/LA

[Nick Heath]

I also noticed that the Whipple (aka "big blower") 2010/2012 CJs are listed. Those were previously SS only.

[Brett C]

Originally Posted by Nick Heath

I also noticed that the Whipple (aka "big blower") 2010/2012 CJs are listed. Those were previously SS only.

The 5.4L motors can’t compete with the 2.3L blowers the current stockers have.

[D.Johns]

Glad to see these changes happen for the class. Going to be a fun season

[bsimms89]

What about people with those cars that don't wish to run heads up in the showdown but just in regular stock eliminator, can they choose to just run in regular stock eliminator qualifying and not the showdown qualifying?

[Ken Miele]

Originally Posted by Brett C

The 5.4L motors can’t compete with the 2.3L blowers the current stockers have.

Agreed, no way the 5.4 with a 2.3 blower can compete at 3550 as the new rules states all cars will weigh 3550. Looks like a good move for the 5.4 by NHRA.

I here Ford Performance is no longer interested in doing anything for the 5.4. In fact, inside sources tell me that FP is actively trying to change the rule that now lets the 5.4 run the bigger blower. What a shame, racers that have supported Ford and brought back the Cobra Jet name have no future. Obviously I hope NHRA sticks by the new rules as it affects my combo, but there are many more 5.4 that would now be competitive, which is what I thought FP wanted.

[Jim D'Amore]

LOL I believe Mike from Ford Performance is working for Roger Allen!

It's not right what he is doing to the '08,'10, and '12 Cobra Jet racers. Mike told all the older Cobra Jet owners that he was going to fight to be able to put the 2.9L Supercharger on to be competitive. When NHRA approved it, Mike turned around and said Ford is not interested! Even after he made all these promises through email.

The 2010 & 2012 Cobra Jet 5.4L with the 4.0L Supercharger is a stock eliminator combination. When they first came out with the combination it was deemed Super Stock because there was no weight break for that Horse power in Stock Eliminator. Now there is, in fact that combination now could have been run in Stock Eliminator for the past 4 years. It is no different then when Don Fezell put so much Horse Power on the 08 Stock Eliminator combination that they moved him to Super Stock until they came out with the new weight breaks.

NHRA informed Ford Performance that this combination was eligible for Stock and Mike still want's to remove it from the showdown class combination. Huh, doesn't make sense for Ford...

Now Ford Performance wants all combinations to weigh 3550, that completely eliminates all '08,'10, and '12 Cobra Jets from Factory Showdown classes.

Mike from Ford Performance and Roger from COPO have a big problem with the Dodge Drag Pack.

This is a very ego driven sport that we are in, Ford Motor Company will lose Millions of dollars a year because of these decisions by Ford Performance. Not only in drag racing but in new car sales. 95% of the people out there who race a brand buy that brand their entire lives. If Ford Performance is not going to back up their racers on paper and approve a combination, that is a big failure to the racers and enthusiasts.

Jim D'Amore

[Jim D'Amore]

-Ford 5.4 331 cu inches at NHRA maximum specs will be 342 cu inches
-Chevrolet 350 cu inches at NHRA maximum specs will be 370 cu inches
-Mopar 354 cu inches at NHRA maximum specs will be 374 cu inches

Now coming into play, adding another 2 atmospheres of air with the use of a supercharger at approximately 26 psi boost.

Ford 5.4 NHRA max specs 342 cu in with 2 atmospheres of air is 1026 cu inches
Chevrolet 350 NHRA max specs 370 cu in with 2 atmospheres of air is 1110 cu inches
Mopar 354 NHRA max specs 374 cu in with 2 atmospheres of air is 1122 cu inches

So under boost Chevrolet is 84 more cubic inches and the Mopar is 96 more cubic inches than the Ford engine combination.

The 2.9L front entry Supercharger spinning to 9,000 engine RPM will produce 26 psi boost in both the GM and Mopar.

The 4.0L Supercharger with the 4.00” pulley on it at 9,000 engine RPM will produce 24 psi boost on the Ford 5.4L motor.

Some say the Ford has a better flowing set of heads which is true but we are limited with camshaft lift. Which the 500 and 510 HP combination only have a .471 max lift cams.

GM and Mopar are well over .640 max lift cam specs, which allows there heads to flow more.




HELLO!

[Superfan1]

Jim, great posts; pretty much what you and I discussed at the Dutch Classic.