Is there any hope of NHRA separating traditional Stockers...

6130 · 03-28-2018, 08:14 PM

...from the "Factory Stock" COPO Camaros, Drag Pak Mopars, and Cobra Jet Mustangs?

In my mind, a 305-powered G-body Stocker from the '80s, has a lot more in common with an EF/S Ford Escort, than it does with a supercharged FS/AA factory race car. One of them wore a license plate, and the other did not. Seems pretty clear to me...

J.R. Haddad · 03-28-2018, 08:26 PM

Take your NHRA permanent number & the amount of LODRS races
and National Events you ran in the last two years & send them a letter
with your proposal. If you do not have any of the above, and are
trying to change things before you race, then the answer is no.

bubski · 03-28-2018, 08:42 PM

Why would you wanna change the current stock format ? A CC/A stock eliminator car that you can't buy and drive on the street shouldn't be in comp eliminator !! as they already have too many classes !! Maybe when one of them eats a E/FS car in the lights at a 170 mph the game will change ! Right now its about the wait to see the carnage of one of those rockets as it saws your escort in half !! Thats what the fans of professional wrestling and racing are waiting to see !! NHRA's fan base !

bubski · 03-28-2018, 08:44 PM

Oops ! EF/S

6130 · 03-28-2018, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bubski

Why would you wanna change the current stock format ? A CC/A stock eliminator car that you can't buy and drive on the street shouldn't be in comp eliminator !! as they already have too many classes !! Maybe when one of them eats a E/FS car in the lights at a 170 mph the game will change ! Right now its about the wait to see the carnage of one of those rockets as it saws your escort in half !! Thats what the fans of professional wrestling and racing are waiting to see !! NHRA's fan base !

I don't own an Escort. I'm simply observing the obvious...

6130 · 03-28-2018, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R. Haddad

Take your NHRA permanent number & the amount of LODRS races
and National Events you ran in the last two years & send them a letter
with your proposal. If you do not have any of the above, and are
trying to change things before you race, then the answer is no.

I had an NHRA permanent number for many years, and maybe the reason I haven't ran National Events the last 2 years is BECAUSE of their position...

J.R. Haddad · 03-28-2018, 09:52 PM

Copo's, Drag Paks, & Cobra Jets are traditional stockers in 2018.
If you don't have one it is very rewarding to beat one! I like all
stockers, some more than others. Same thing with people.

Charley Downing · 03-28-2018, 10:24 PM

6130 keep observing. In you observations you should have noticed national event quotes are between 55-65 per class and keep getting a little lower each year. What is your hope of separation going to accomplish? Just be thankful NHRA still lets cars pre 1980 still race. Because if these quotes keep getting lower there not going to need a bunch of 40 plus year old cars to full 32 or so spots for stock and SS at a national event.

Not sure why some of you feel its more rewarding to bet a newer car. A round win is a round win no matter what year car is in the other lane.

james schaechter · 03-29-2018, 05:01 AM

Be thankful traditional stockers don’t have to race the factory paper cars heads up any longer. That separation was welcome for most. I think the most important commonality we have is that we all love class racing and we need to find ways to make it work for all. One thing for sure is that we are not likely to make things they way they were. We need to figure out ways to raise interest for all. New cars and old. I don’t see anyone separating them into different categories. That ship sailed long ago.

tpoh815 · 03-29-2018, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing

6130 keep observing. In you observations you should have noticed national event quotes are between 55-65 per class and keep getting a little lower each year. What is your hope of separation going to accomplish? Just be thankful NHRA still lets cars pre 1980 still race. Because if these quotes keep getting lower there not going to need a bunch of 40 plus year old cars to full 32 or so spots for stock and SS at a national event.

Not sure why some of you feel its more rewarding to bet a newer car. A round win is a round win no matter what year car is in the other lane.

"Just be thankful NHRA still lets cars pre 1980 still race"

"Because if these quotes keep getting lower there not going to need a bunch of 40 plus year old cars to full 32 or so spots for stock and SS at a national event".
Think about this statement.......Just think about it!

03-28-2018, 08:14 PM	#1
6130 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 409 Likes: 295 Liked 117 Times in 50 Posts	Is there any hope of NHRA separating traditional Stockers... ...from the "Factory Stock" COPO Camaros, Drag Pak Mopars, and Cobra Jet Mustangs? In my mind, a 305-powered G-body Stocker from the '80s, has a lot more in common with an EF/S Ford Escort, than it does with a supercharged FS/AA factory race car. One of them wore a license plate, and the other did not. Seems pretty clear to me... Last edited by 6130; 04-08-2018 at 08:58 PM.

03-28-2018, 08:26 PM	#2
J.R. Haddad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 624 Likes: 513 Liked 878 Times in 196 Posts	Re: Is there any hope of NHRA separating traditional Stocker Take your NHRA permanent number & the amount of LODRS races and National Events you ran in the last two years & send them a letter with your proposal. If you do not have any of the above, and are trying to change things before you race, then the answer is no.

03-28-2018, 08:42 PM	#3
bubski Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 228 Likes: 14 Liked 186 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Is there any hope of NHRA separating traditional Stocker Why would you wanna change the current stock format ? A CC/A stock eliminator car that you can't buy and drive on the street shouldn't be in comp eliminator !! as they already have too many classes !! Maybe when one of them eats a E/FS car in the lights at a 170 mph the game will change ! Right now its about the wait to see the carnage of one of those rockets as it saws your escort in half !! Thats what the fans of professional wrestling and racing are waiting to see !! NHRA's fan base !

03-28-2018, 08:44 PM	#4
bubski Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 228 Likes: 14 Liked 186 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Is there any hope of NHRA separating traditional Stocker Oops ! EF/S

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J.R. Haddad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 624 Likes: 513 Liked 878 Times in 196 Posts	Re: Is there any hope of NHRA separating traditional Stocker Copo's, Drag Paks, & Cobra Jets are traditional stockers in 2018. If you don't have one it is very rewarding to beat one! I like all stockers, some more than others. Same thing with people.

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Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 759 Likes: 16 Liked 625 Times in 86 Posts	Re: Is there any hope of NHRA separating traditional Stocker 6130 keep observing. In you observations you should have noticed national event quotes are between 55-65 per class and keep getting a little lower each year. What is your hope of separation going to accomplish? Just be thankful NHRA still lets cars pre 1980 still race. Because if these quotes keep getting lower there not going to need a bunch of 40 plus year old cars to full 32 or so spots for stock and SS at a national event. Not sure why some of you feel its more rewarding to bet a newer car. A round win is a round win no matter what year car is in the other lane. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 03-28-2018 at 10:27 PM.

03-29-2018, 05:01 AM	#9
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,928 Likes: 1,069 Liked 1,212 Times in 249 Posts	Re: Is there any hope of NHRA separating traditional Stocker Be thankful traditional stockers don’t have to race the factory paper cars heads up any longer. That separation was welcome for most. I think the most important commonality we have is that we all love class racing and we need to find ways to make it work for all. One thing for sure is that we are not likely to make things they way they were. We need to figure out ways to raise interest for all. New cars and old. I don’t see anyone separating them into different categories. That ship sailed long ago. __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK