WTB bowtie block

Dave Jung · 01-25-2011, 03:23 PM

I'm looking for a bowtie block to build a 305 out of. I believe the #10051182 is what I am after. Thank you

Dave

Greg Turk · 01-25-2011, 04:34 PM

Dave try Patterson Racing Engines in Augusta Kansas, I believe Alan bought a few of these....this was last year, so I'm not sure if he still has any left.
I just got the machine work done on my own Bowtie, now to finish assembly, I hope it was worth the extra expense.
Good luck in your search these are getting harder to find, Dart now makes NHRA legal blocks however, I'm not sure about a small bore small block.
Turkman

raceman14 · 01-25-2011, 04:56 PM

I have a couple original in the box GM 1184LW Bowtie blocks ( unmachined ). I purchased 20 of them and built LW Late Model oval track engines out of them, I think the actual weight is about 40-50# less than a standard Bowtie block and this weight reduction was in then casting not machining. I paid $4500 for them and will sell for that as they are no longer available.

I also have a good selection of Uniboring Cup style blocks ( SB-2 & 18* Some Compacted Graphite ), cranks, rods, pistons, cams, heads etc. 23*, 18* and SB-2.

I ship small parts out , a couple time a week and big stuff once a week.

e mail ; mancinelli@att.net

Sorry Dave, bore might be rough 3.900

Dave Jung · 01-25-2011, 06:50 PM

thanks for the responses guys.

Greg, what is the number of the block you have? And what is the rough bore size?

Dave

Greg Turk · 01-25-2011, 07:27 PM

Dave,
I've got a 10051182....
its rough bored to 3.650
2 bolt mains with 1pc rear main seal
The max bore can be 4.000
I believe the 10051181, is the other bowtie its 3.875 rough bore,max bore 4.030, 2 bolt 1pc rear, I'm not sure on the "81" but mine is 10051182 and its about 180+ lbs, Im guessing on the weight.

Dave Jung · 01-25-2011, 07:35 PM

thanks Greg, I emailed Patterson engines in Kansas.

jeff klei · 01-25-2011, 08:13 PM

Patterson will not sell the block unless you have him build you a engine with that block. I tried to buy it also and this is what they told me. Use the dart block and save the hassle.

Brett Brown · 01-25-2011, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Jung

I'm looking for a bowtie block to build a 305 out of. I believe the #10051182 is what I am after. Thank you

Dave

Dave, I just purchased on of these blocks from RacePartsOutlet in Iowa. They told me that they had a few left. The phone number is 515-289-5288.

Tom Moock · 01-25-2011, 09:36 PM

Greg, the number # 10051181 is the part number for small rough bore block,the casting number on block is # 10051182. The larger bore part # is 10051183 casting # is 10051184. Some of the 10051182 blocks mite not clean up when bored 3.796 then you need to sell it to 265 or 283 racer. Tom

Dave Jung · 01-26-2011, 02:39 AM

Thanks Tom and Brett, I will check out racepartsoutlet and see what they say.

Am I correct in thinking that I can not use a 4 bolt block as a 305? The only aftermarket blocks on the accepted list is 4 bolt mains, so I assume I cannot use the Dart or World blocks.

01-25-2011, 04:34 PM	#2
Greg Turk Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jacksonville,Illinois Posts: 118 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Re: WTB bowtie block Dave try Patterson Racing Engines in Augusta Kansas, I believe Alan bought a few of these....this was last year, so I'm not sure if he still has any left. I just got the machine work done on my own Bowtie, now to finish assembly, I hope it was worth the extra expense. Good luck in your search these are getting harder to find, Dart now makes NHRA legal blocks however, I'm not sure about a small bore small block. Turkman __________________ TURKMAN 4002 Stock, 4002 Super Stock

01-25-2011, 04:56 PM	#3
raceman14 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: WTB bowtie block I have a couple original in the box GM 1184LW Bowtie blocks ( unmachined ). I purchased 20 of them and built LW Late Model oval track engines out of them, I think the actual weight is about 40-50# less than a standard Bowtie block and this weight reduction was in then casting not machining. I paid $4500 for them and will sell for that as they are no longer available. I also have a good selection of Uniboring Cup style blocks ( SB-2 & 18* Some Compacted Graphite ), cranks, rods, pistons, cams, heads etc. 23, 18 and SB-2. I ship small parts out , a couple time a week and big stuff once a week. e mail ; mancinelli@att.net Sorry Dave, bore might be rough 3.900 Last edited by raceman14; 01-25-2011 at 04:59 PM. Reason: Bore might be too big

01-25-2011, 06:50 PM	#4
Dave Jung Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Surrey B.C. Posts: 135 Likes: 3 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: WTB bowtie block thanks for the responses guys. Greg, what is the number of the block you have? And what is the rough bore size? Dave __________________ 6535 stk 81 Malibu K/SA

01-25-2011, 07:27 PM	#5
Greg Turk Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jacksonville,Illinois Posts: 118 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 4 Posts	Re: WTB bowtie block Dave, I've got a 10051182.... its rough bored to 3.650 2 bolt mains with 1pc rear main seal The max bore can be 4.000 I believe the 10051181, is the other bowtie its 3.875 rough bore,max bore 4.030, 2 bolt 1pc rear, I'm not sure on the "81" but mine is 10051182 and its about 180+ lbs, Im guessing on the weight. __________________ TURKMAN 4002 Stock, 4002 Super Stock

01-25-2011, 07:35 PM	#6
Dave Jung Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Surrey B.C. Posts: 135 Likes: 3 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: WTB bowtie block thanks Greg, I emailed Patterson engines in Kansas. __________________ 6535 stk 81 Malibu K/SA

01-25-2011, 03:23 PM	#1
Dave Jung Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Surrey B.C. Posts: 135 Likes: 3 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	WTB bowtie block I'm looking for a bowtie block to build a 305 out of. I believe the #10051182 is what I am after. Thank you Dave __________________ 6535 stk 81 Malibu K/SA

01-25-2011, 08:13 PM	#7
jeff klei Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: canton, mi Posts: 67 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: WTB bowtie block Patterson will not sell the block unless you have him build you a engine with that block. I tried to buy it also and this is what they told me. Use the dart block and save the hassle.

01-25-2011, 09:36 PM	#9
Tom Moock Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 801 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: WTB bowtie block Greg, the number # 10051181 is the part number for small rough bore block,the casting number on block is # 10051182. The larger bore part # is 10051183 casting # is 10051184. Some of the 10051182 blocks mite not clean up when bored 3.796 then you need to sell it to 265 or 283 racer. Tom __________________ Tom Moock 5704 STK

01-26-2011, 02:39 AM	#10
Dave Jung Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Surrey B.C. Posts: 135 Likes: 3 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: WTB bowtie block Thanks Tom and Brett, I will check out racepartsoutlet and see what they say. Am I correct in thinking that I can not use a 4 bolt block as a 305? The only aftermarket blocks on the accepted list is 4 bolt mains, so I assume I cannot use the Dart or World blocks. __________________ 6535 stk 81 Malibu K/SA