Current SS A/H car in NNS?

James Hensler · 10-04-2022, 01:54 PM

As everyone knows Hemi Shootouts are dying off and I still want to race my car. Please help guide me here because this NSS stuff is Greek to me
My combo is a A/H Iron Block and Iron Head motor. I run a billet intake so that puts me in AAAA/FX to A/FX. I run a Clutchless 4 speed so that also is allowed the same classes. I have to put on smaller tires because my 14.5’s are not allowed. Guys am I missing anything else? Is there a minimum weight? Our 1968 Darts and Barracuda’s had light weight front ends from the factory so is that an issue?

James Hensler · 10-04-2022, 07:10 PM

138 looks and I feel the love! Not one reply! I wouldn’t want me in the class either! Lmao

1347 · 10-04-2022, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by James Hensler

As everyone knows Hemi Shootouts are dying off and I still want to race my car. Please help guide me here because this NSS stuff is Greek to me
My combo is a A/H Iron Block and Iron Head motor. I run a billet intake so that puts me in AAAA/FX to A/FX. I run a Clutchless 4 speed so that also is allowed the same classes. I have to put on smaller tires because my 14.5’s are not allowed. Guys am I missing anything else? Is there a minimum weight? Our 1968 Darts and Barracuda’s had light weight front ends from the factory so is that an issue?

I could be wrong, but arent NNS races just bracket races? I'm not putting them down, just asking because if you have a NHRA legal SS/AH car, why wouldn't you run divisionals and Super Stock/Stock association races along with the shootout races? Then you wouldn't have to change anything on your car.

There is a Hemi Shootout at the Dutch Classic in 3 weeks.

James Hensler · 10-04-2022, 08:04 PM

That’s what I did this year I hurt my engine so no Dutch for me this year. The reason is I have a spare motor and can change cams and some other stuff to slow it down to say 8.75 and not be as hard on parts. A/H racing is super hard on parts but I hear you

stocker396 · 10-05-2022, 10:59 AM

Contact Jim Bailey for the NMCA NSS questions you may have , but there are other groups that have different specs on which class they want you in.
Some of my friends and I are also contemplating the same thing. More races, easier on parts. Oh and the Fun factor. I have been to a few NMCA events and they were GREAT!

Mark Yacavone · 10-05-2022, 12:40 PM

You can have a taller than stock hood scoop or one that doesn't belong there at all ;-)

jmcarter · 10-05-2022, 03:12 PM

I would think one of the appeals of these classes is making your car less maintenance intensive so with a intake and transmission change you could run one of the NSS classes and still have a lot of fun. Not sure how engaged Jim Bailey is right now with Ian’s aftermath but he could probably entertain recommendations on rule changes that would make your switchover even easier.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...mErt-5x3p/edit

Steve Stasko · 10-05-2022, 04:57 PM

Any reason for not running NMCA's Super Stock class?

bkraft · 10-05-2022, 05:48 PM

Jim,

Give me a call. I can run thru all the avenues you can go down with Wendell's old car.

I sold the twin to Benny in 2020. He's been at INDY the last two years with it. Think I saw picture of both taken during TT.

I now race in NHRA divisional, National, and NMCA, and Stock/SuperStock associations. Raced 14 times year.

Thanks, Bill Kraft seven one six- 55three-zero 9 89

James Hensler · 10-05-2022, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

I would think one of the appeals of these classes is making your car less maintenance intensive so with a intake and transmission change you could run one of the NSS classes and still have a lot of fun. Not sure how engaged Jim Bailey is right now with Ian’s aftermath but he could probably entertain recommendations on rule changes that would make your switchover even easier.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...mErt-5x3p/edit

I might have an issue with the intake but not the Trans because it’s legal

10-04-2022, 01:54 PM	#1
James Hensler Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Noblesville,In Posts: 116 Likes: 7 Liked 60 Times in 37 Posts	Current SS A/H car in NNS? As everyone knows Hemi Shootouts are dying off and I still want to race my car. Please help guide me here because this NSS stuff is Greek to me My combo is a A/H Iron Block and Iron Head motor. I run a billet intake so that puts me in AAAA/FX to A/FX. I run a Clutchless 4 speed so that also is allowed the same classes. I have to put on smaller tires because my 14.5’s are not allowed. Guys am I missing anything else? Is there a minimum weight? Our 1968 Darts and Barracuda’s had light weight front ends from the factory so is that an issue? __________________ SS/AH 328X Last edited by James Hensler; 10-04-2022 at 01:56 PM.

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James Hensler Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Noblesville,In Posts: 116 Likes: 7 Liked 60 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Current SS A/H car in NNS? 138 looks and I feel the love! Not one reply! I wouldn’t want me in the class either! Lmao __________________ SS/AH 328X

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James Hensler Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Noblesville,In Posts: 116 Likes: 7 Liked 60 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Current SS A/H car in NNS? That’s what I did this year I hurt my engine so no Dutch for me this year. The reason is I have a spare motor and can change cams and some other stuff to slow it down to say 8.75 and not be as hard on parts. A/H racing is super hard on parts but I hear you __________________ SS/AH 328X

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stocker396 Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Santa Fe TEXAS Posts: 108 Likes: 2 Liked 57 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Current SS A/H car in NNS? Contact Jim Bailey for the NMCA NSS questions you may have , but there are other groups that have different specs on which class they want you in. Some of my friends and I are also contemplating the same thing. More races, easier on parts. Oh and the Fun factor. I have been to a few NMCA events and they were GREAT! __________________ Overkill is Under-rated

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Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,666 Likes: 2,774 Liked 4,856 Times in 1,847 Posts	Re: Current SS A/H car in NNS? You can have a taller than stock hood scoop or one that doesn't belong there at all ;-) __________________ Real life never quite adds up.... Jay Farrar

10-05-2022, 03:12 PM	#7
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,223 Likes: 2,181 Liked 2,966 Times in 913 Posts	Re: Current SS A/H car in NNS? I would think one of the appeals of these classes is making your car less maintenance intensive so with a intake and transmission change you could run one of the NSS classes and still have a lot of fun. Not sure how engaged Jim Bailey is right now with Ian’s aftermath but he could probably entertain recommendations on rule changes that would make your switchover even easier. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...mErt-5x3p/edit __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

10-05-2022, 04:57 PM	#8
Steve Stasko Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Western PA Posts: 433 Likes: 8 Liked 249 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Current SS A/H car in NNS? Any reason for not running NMCA's Super Stock class? Last edited by Steve Stasko; 10-05-2022 at 04:59 PM.

10-05-2022, 05:48 PM	#9
bkraft Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY area Posts: 37 Likes: 3 Liked 15 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Current SS A/H car in NNS? Jim, Give me a call. I can run thru all the avenues you can go down with Wendell's old car. I sold the twin to Benny in 2020. He's been at INDY the last two years with it. Think I saw picture of both taken during TT. I now race in NHRA divisional, National, and NMCA, and Stock/SuperStock associations. Raced 14 times year. Thanks, Bill Kraft seven one six- 55three-zero 9 89