Smokey Ram

Snake SS-351 · 02-01-2013, 06:07 PM

I am looking for an "Old Skool" Smokey Ram Intake manifold. These were made by Edelbrock and had the part number SY-1. The manifold must not be modified in any way (no porting or polishing). Polished up on the outside is acceptable but who wants to go through that nightmare. I'm not even sure this is going to work on my little project, but I want to give it a try. Any tuning help or setup info would be greatly appreciated as well.
Thanks.

magnumv8 · 02-01-2013, 06:34 PM

try this # 2872373 on racing junk.......might be what you are searching for....

D L Rambo....STK 1300

Snake SS-351 · 02-02-2013, 04:31 PM

For something posted on Racing "Junk" they sure are proud of it. I'm not even sure that a Smokey Ram will work for my application. For what they want for those intakes I could get a nice used Dart manifold, a brand new legal carb, fuel line, pressure gauge, and a nice scoop. Although I may not be enough left for the gauge.
This is for a 9.5:1, unported iron heads w/small valves, .450 lift, 355ci SBC with a 600cfm holley(spec Carb.) . With the valve springs we have to run 6500rpm is the absolute max. Would the Smokey Ram be a good option?

Jeff Lee · 02-02-2013, 05:17 PM

If you think $425 is a lot of money for a nostalgic intake manifold that has a high "cool factor", you will be looking a long time!

I seriously doubt this will work on your low compression, low lift cam 350. It's designed for high RPM race engines from Trans-Am days.

Run to Rund · 02-02-2013, 08:39 PM

I know a guy who tried it in the 1970s on a strong high rpm street-strip Chevelle. Based on the hype I thought it would work well, sort of like a cross ram. Turns out, the Tarantula walked all over it.

Jeff Lee · 02-03-2013, 01:06 AM

I think any box style intake needs extensive internal modifications to work on the strip, even more for the street. They are cool looking but it takes a lot to make them work. Direct Connection used to have a tech bulletin on modifying the Weind two piece intakes.
Edelbrock made the STR series and AMC guys love the cross-ram as they were factory on the SS/AMX's. Most cars run faster when they put a 750-850 Holley on a Torker. But go to a car show with a cross-ram and open the hood and everybody lines up and drools.

Snake SS-351 · 02-03-2013, 01:45 AM

That is the kind of information that helps, and I thank you for it. Having someone tell me how cool my junk is as they are walking over to congratulate the winner is not my idea of a good weekend. This was strictly about finding a competitive advantage, if there isn't one to be had with the Smokey Ram I will just move on. The rules state that I can run any single 4v intake manifold "as manufactured", aluminum or iron. No prototype, tunnel ram, or sheet metal intakes. Seems simple enough, just need to pick out the one that works best.

Again, Thanks for your thoughts.

BOB BLACK · 02-03-2013, 06:18 AM

i have an offenhauser single carb cross ram verison manifold i would like to post a picture but i do not seam to have the means ( dum A@#$%) if you get my drift i was hopeing to be of help if i can find out how to post iwill show you
thanks bob

Jeff Lee · 02-03-2013, 12:21 PM

What have you tried?
What kind of class is this?
Sounds like the old tried and true Torker would work with that 600 Holley.
I once had a low comp, small valve 340 Dodge with a .500" hydraulic that had too much duration (but sounded really good). I tried several intakes and was most happy with the one that wasn't supposed to work; a Holley Strip Dominator w/ a 750 DP. 7000 RPM all day long. Won just about every street race with that (and I did a lot of it) and not bad at the track. Maybe you should look at that.

Snake SS-351 · 02-03-2013, 01:06 PM

To Bob:
I would be interested in seeing pics but I'm not sure what it takes to place an attachment with a thread.
Also, if unmodified that would be a legal manifold and I could use it.

To Jeff:
What have I tried? Tried a dual plane intake, too much of a compromise. Need to make all the power from 3500-6500. Driveability at lower RPM is not a concern. We start them up and head out of the pits at 2500-3500 RPM. Run that way for 2-3 minutes till everything gets all warmed up then put it on the firewall. Full power, max RPM for anywhere from 5-8 minutes, then its back to the pits. The RPM may drop a few hundred in the corners but only because of the additional load, not from backing off. The Class is Sportsman Entry, or SE. We circle race Flatbottom V-drive boats. Think of it as racing a dyno, thats why I thought the Smokey Ram might be a viable option. Idling around the pits is just not a concern. I was in the market for a Strip Dominator or Team G or other such large empty hole when the Smokey Ram idea came to me. I know no one else has one, or tried one to my knowledge, I was just looking for an edge.

02-01-2013, 06:07 PM	#1
Snake SS-351 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sarasota Fl. Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Smokey Ram I am looking for an "Old Skool" Smokey Ram Intake manifold. These were made by Edelbrock and had the part number SY-1. The manifold must not be modified in any way (no porting or polishing). Polished up on the outside is acceptable but who wants to go through that nightmare. I'm not even sure this is going to work on my little project, but I want to give it a try. Any tuning help or setup info would be greatly appreciated as well. Thanks.

02-01-2013, 06:34 PM	#2
magnumv8 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Coraopolis, Pa. Posts: 172 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram try this # 2872373 on racing junk.......might be what you are searching for.... D L Rambo....STK 1300

02-02-2013, 04:31 PM	#3
Snake SS-351 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sarasota Fl. Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram For something posted on Racing "Junk" they sure are proud of it. I'm not even sure that a Smokey Ram will work for my application. For what they want for those intakes I could get a nice used Dart manifold, a brand new legal carb, fuel line, pressure gauge, and a nice scoop. Although I may not be enough left for the gauge. This is for a 9.5:1, unported iron heads w/small valves, .450 lift, 355ci SBC with a 600cfm holley(spec Carb.) . With the valve springs we have to run 6500rpm is the absolute max. Would the Smokey Ram be a good option?

02-02-2013, 05:17 PM	#4
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram If you think $425 is a lot of money for a nostalgic intake manifold that has a high "cool factor", you will be looking a long time! I seriously doubt this will work on your low compression, low lift cam 350. It's designed for high RPM race engines from Trans-Am days. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

02-02-2013, 08:39 PM	#5
Run to Rund Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 574 Likes: 6 Liked 44 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram I know a guy who tried it in the 1970s on a strong high rpm street-strip Chevelle. Based on the hype I thought it would work well, sort of like a cross ram. Turns out, the Tarantula walked all over it.

02-03-2013, 01:06 AM	#6
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram I think any box style intake needs extensive internal modifications to work on the strip, even more for the street. They are cool looking but it takes a lot to make them work. Direct Connection used to have a tech bulletin on modifying the Weind two piece intakes. Edelbrock made the STR series and AMC guys love the cross-ram as they were factory on the SS/AMX's. Most cars run faster when they put a 750-850 Holley on a Torker. But go to a car show with a cross-ram and open the hood and everybody lines up and drools. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

02-03-2013, 01:45 AM	#7
Snake SS-351 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sarasota Fl. Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram That is the kind of information that helps, and I thank you for it. Having someone tell me how cool my junk is as they are walking over to congratulate the winner is not my idea of a good weekend. This was strictly about finding a competitive advantage, if there isn't one to be had with the Smokey Ram I will just move on. The rules state that I can run any single 4v intake manifold "as manufactured", aluminum or iron. No prototype, tunnel ram, or sheet metal intakes. Seems simple enough, just need to pick out the one that works best. Again, Thanks for your thoughts.

02-03-2013, 06:18 AM	#8
BOB BLACK Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram i have an offenhauser single carb cross ram verison manifold i would like to post a picture but i do not seam to have the means ( dum A@#$%) if you get my drift i was hopeing to be of help if i can find out how to post iwill show you thanks bob

02-03-2013, 12:21 PM	#9
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram What have you tried? What kind of class is this? Sounds like the old tried and true Torker would work with that 600 Holley. I once had a low comp, small valve 340 Dodge with a .500" hydraulic that had too much duration (but sounded really good). I tried several intakes and was most happy with the one that wasn't supposed to work; a Holley Strip Dominator w/ a 750 DP. 7000 RPM all day long. Won just about every street race with that (and I did a lot of it) and not bad at the track. Maybe you should look at that. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

02-03-2013, 01:06 PM	#10
Snake SS-351 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sarasota Fl. Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Smokey Ram To Bob: I would be interested in seeing pics but I'm not sure what it takes to place an attachment with a thread. Also, if unmodified that would be a legal manifold and I could use it. To Jeff: What have I tried? Tried a dual plane intake, too much of a compromise. Need to make all the power from 3500-6500. Driveability at lower RPM is not a concern. We start them up and head out of the pits at 2500-3500 RPM. Run that way for 2-3 minutes till everything gets all warmed up then put it on the firewall. Full power, max RPM for anywhere from 5-8 minutes, then its back to the pits. The RPM may drop a few hundred in the corners but only because of the additional load, not from backing off. The Class is Sportsman Entry, or SE. We circle race Flatbottom V-drive boats. Think of it as racing a dyno, thats why I thought the Smokey Ram might be a viable option. Idling around the pits is just not a concern. I was in the market for a Strip Dominator or Team G or other such large empty hole when the Smokey Ram idea came to me. I know no one else has one, or tried one to my knowledge, I was just looking for an edge.