Let's have a discussion about setting records

Ed Carpenter · 05-22-2017, 03:39 PM

Nevermind this isn't worth the the trouble its bringing me. Try to do something positive and people **** all over it.

ALMACK · 05-22-2017, 03:42 PM

Anyone else notice that National Dragster no longer lists the 1/4 mile records ?

Years ago the 1/8th mile records disappeared.
Now the 1/4 records...

Cotten · 05-22-2017, 03:50 PM

I very much like the idea of creating some inventive to set records and qualify well

As you probably know in the "old days" you were awarded points as your example for qualifying. When they went to the 10pts per round win rather than 100pts they eluminated it as I assume they felt it was weighted to heavily towards qualifying. As an example you could earn the equivalent points of being runner up at a race by qualifying number 1 eight times.

Perhaps the same system with fractional points i.e. 1.6 for number 1 1.5 number 2 etc.

Also a smaller number of points for records.

Perhaps in a more perfect world some of the manufacturers could pay contingency for records lol

I like the direction of your thinking.

Mike

GEORGE PETERSON · 05-22-2017, 04:00 PM

Records are made to be broken, not to expire.

Ernie Neal · 05-22-2017, 04:17 PM

I agree Ed, I hate to see all those minimums as well. Yes George, they should stay until someone else takes it!! I know it's work tearing them down, I don't mind a little work occasionally.

Ernie Neal
SS 354 and GT/H record holder

denbreeden · 05-22-2017, 04:26 PM

Mopar is paying $500 for setting a record this year, that's a great start. That may be for Drag Paks only, I will have to read it again. I plan on collecting at the next National Open. I like Ed's thoughts on qualifying as well, we are supposed to be all about performance.

Dennis Breeden

Billy Nees · 05-22-2017, 04:57 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember way back in ancient history that National Record Holders got a Gold Card. Now, there's some incentive!

BBF67 · 05-22-2017, 06:19 PM

As often as horsepower is being refactored on some combinations, what happens to the record when a car gets bumped into another class?

Mark Yacavone · 05-22-2017, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBF67

As often as horsepower is being refactored on some combinations, what happens to the record when a car gets bumped into another class?

They are supposed to be returned to a minimum , if the car weight , at the time of record setting, is less than required at present.
However, I've seen examples recently where they were just allowed to expire.
I'd be okay with "forever" records, if the hp and weight changes were policed like Farmer would have done.

BRETV · 05-22-2017, 06:45 PM

Ed, I'm so glad you started this thread, I was just looking at all the minimums and thinking how sad!!! First would be at least getting NHRA to relist them back in ND.

Bret Velde
2003 SS/LA

05-22-2017, 03:39 PM	#1
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,697 Likes: 185 Liked 502 Times in 125 Posts	Let's have a discussion about setting records Nevermind this isn't worth the the trouble its bringing me. Try to do something positive and people **** all over it. __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development Last edited by Ed Carpenter; 06-01-2017 at 11:18 PM.

05-22-2017, 03:42 PM	#2
ALMACK VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 1,928 Likes: 98 Liked 324 Times in 116 Posts	Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records Anyone else notice that National Dragster no longer lists the 1/4 mile records ? Years ago the 1/8th mile records disappeared. Now the 1/4 records... __________________ Alan Mackin Stock 3777/ SS 3377 P/SA & SS/PA Fox Thunderbird I/PS '95 Mustang GT

05-22-2017, 03:50 PM	#3
Cotten Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 219 Likes: 452 Liked 485 Times in 58 Posts	Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records I very much like the idea of creating some inventive to set records and qualify well As you probably know in the "old days" you were awarded points as your example for qualifying. When they went to the 10pts per round win rather than 100pts they eluminated it as I assume they felt it was weighted to heavily towards qualifying. As an example you could earn the equivalent points of being runner up at a race by qualifying number 1 eight times. Perhaps the same system with fractional points i.e. 1.6 for number 1 1.5 number 2 etc. Also a smaller number of points for records. Perhaps in a more perfect world some of the manufacturers could pay contingency for records lol I like the direction of your thinking. Mike

05-22-2017, 04:00 PM	#4
GEORGE PETERSON Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 39 Likes: 29 Liked 11 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records Records are made to be broken, not to expire.

05-22-2017, 04:17 PM	#5
Ernie Neal Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, Indiana Posts: 517 Likes: 139 Liked 301 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records I agree Ed, I hate to see all those minimums as well. Yes George, they should stay until someone else takes it!! I know it's work tearing them down, I don't mind a little work occasionally. Ernie Neal SS 354 and GT/H record holder

05-22-2017, 04:26 PM	#6
denbreeden Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Plainville, IN Posts: 515 Likes: 159 Liked 77 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records Mopar is paying $500 for setting a record this year, that's a great start. That may be for Drag Paks only, I will have to read it again. I plan on collecting at the next National Open. I like Ed's thoughts on qualifying as well, we are supposed to be all about performance. Dennis Breeden

05-22-2017, 04:57 PM	#7
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,218 Likes: 3,091 Liked 6,772 Times in 1,519 Posts	Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember way back in ancient history that National Record Holders got a Gold Card. Now, there's some incentive! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS Make tech "TECH" again!

05-22-2017, 06:19 PM	#8
BBF67 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 89 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records As often as horsepower is being refactored on some combinations, what happens to the record when a car gets bumped into another class?

05-22-2017, 06:45 PM	#10
BRETV Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 488 Likes: 2,995 Liked 598 Times in 148 Posts	Re: Let's have a discussion about setting records Ed, I'm so glad you started this thread, I was just looking at all the minimums and thinking how sad!!! First would be at least getting NHRA to relist them back in ND. Bret Velde 2003 SS/LA

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