GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

between 442-453 is all HP we could get out of the new motor at big stuffs two weeks ago. With good pistons .70 over, killer stocker ring package and a new set of killer set of heads. And one of the best tuners in the country. No matter how good of parts we have we still only have 281CI to work with.
There is not that much to gain with this new stuff. The factory part are really good. We spent over 14 grand on the new motor with all kinds od stocker tricks and picked up 12-15 HP over the old mostly stock stuff wich made 440 HP.

So then around 300 would be a fair number, I guess I wasn't too far off.

You say my motor is soft, it makes almost exactly 1.5 hp/rated hp. Assuming you're telling me the truth, you're about 43 rated hp away from that number.

Just curious, how many different cams have you guys tried, I'm sure there is a lot to be found there considering there haven't been many overhead cam stockers out there until the last couple years.

andie, who won C/SA and D/SA at Indy this year?

A 352 mustang red lit in the final of D, and Bryan Phillips won (super happy to see that). Kyle Ratcliff, who has one of the fastest LT1s in the country, won C, the new 302 in that class didn't run worth a crap (a 1.46 60' won't get it done). Did you notice what happened in E and F?

By the way, I go by Andrew, thanks.

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by Kevin Zaskowski

Imagine this, most of those people (you forgot about me) were at Indy and go to other National events with class. And once again, that 352 did not win "D" class at Indy.

I would have loved to be at Indy last year, just couldn't make it because of school. Unless I'm mistaken, none of the D3 national events in the summer had class, and I had to pick and choose which weekends I could get off from work. I raced class at Belle Rose last year and would have at Columbus, but ND decided to schedule the Michigan game that weekend (GO IRISH!).

And I didn't mean to forget you, just knew that you ran E/F most of last year, I thought you were in E at Indy, my mistake.

[Bruce Noland]

The mustang in D/SA was -.005 on the tree. That's the only reason he didn't win.

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I have said it before but it does no good. You guys with the older cars do not listen. Take 2013 off. Just race your local circuit races and work on your equipment. Stay close to home and save a ton of money for the next year. The ONLY way NHRA will listen is if you hit them in their wallets. It will take a 100% effort on each of you. They dont care about you any other way other than your dollars. Let the rich guys have at it with their new super cars. Maybe the AHFS will work quicker. Sooner or later NHRA will see what is going on. If not.....What have you lost ? Not much from what I see. Either that or keep taking it up your shorts !

That is certainly one option available.

The other option is to take your OLD car to the race and WIN the Wally.

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

That is certainly one option available.

The other option is to take your OLD car to the race and WIN the Wally.

That's my goal, too. As frustrated as some of the new car stuff makes me, I'm not going to let it keep me from doing what I love to do.

[Jeff Teuton]

My feelings are hurt. Yall didn't even mention me. Anyway we will probably be in D,E, & F this year. I can't get to D cause I'm too fat, but I'm goin on a diet. And just what is wrong with drinkin beer at the races? Sombody got a probalm with that?

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

My feelings are hurt. Yall didn't even mention me. Anyway we will probably be in D,E, & F this year. I can't get to D cause I'm too fat, but I'm goin on a diet. And just what is wrong with drinkin beer at the races? Sombody got a probalm with that?

Run that car out a little more and you can come join the fun in D without even going on a diet! There's absolutely nothing wrong with drinking beer at the races. It's been more than once I've heard, "my drinkin' buddies have a racing problem!"

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by 69Cobra

Ed I don't see a 351 or an engine factored at 312hp in the '13 options.

Sorry, how about 352" rated at 285 hp?

[69Cobra]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Sorry, how about 352" rated at 285 hp?

That's my point. The 352 was a '10 option and its equivalent is basically the 363 rated at 330hp. A 45 hp hit for '13. The 428 I believe was at 383 and now the 427 is at 425, a 42 hp hit for '13. I don't know if NHRA is behind this or if its Ford. I'll be honest. I cancelled my '13 BIW Competition Kit when I found out that the 5.0 N/A was going to be rated at 350 hp. That is the most N/A hp/cube engine I can find in the guide. After I heard that I was just going to make it a '10-'12 car and build a 352 or 428 but I didn't know if how much body panels I would had to change out to make a '13 a '10-'12. That's when I said the heck with it.

[Ed Wright]

I mis -typed the cubic inches, and was told 312 HP. Isn't that the 12-1 compression engine?
I might need to build a Mustang.