Rules for staging? - Page 2

Chuck Norton · 09-07-2009, 05:20 PM

Here's an amendment to the staging rule as posted on the NHRA web page before Indy:

STAGING
DELETE:
“When staging in Super Stock, Stock, Super Comp, Super Gas, or Super Street
categories, both contestants must activate their pre-stage lights before either
may advance into the stage beams.”
REPLACE WITH:
“When staging in Super Stock, Stock, Super Comp, Super Gas, Super Street,
or Competition Eliminator categories, both contestants must activate their
pre-stage lights before either may advance into the stage beams.”

Apparently, they only just now added Comp to the list.

c

larry dowty · 09-07-2009, 07:57 PM

chuck does that mean it is ok to wait for the guy to light his top bulb, and then roll in and light both with out pausing ? seems to me the second guy has a little bit of a advantage?

Another Friendly Racer · 09-07-2009, 08:17 PM

It just means that a driver can not stage until the other driver is pre staged. If you choose to prestage 2nd and roll right in and stage in one big motion, so be it.

larry dowty · 09-07-2009, 09:04 PM

i did not know that was legal ok with me just did not know the second guy could go in with out stopping.

442OLDS · 09-07-2009, 09:15 PM

Here is another staging scenario that happened to a friend of mine at a bracket race.I think I am explaining this right......

Driver A lights the pre-stage.Driver B lights the pre-stage.Driver A stages.Driver B notices that his dial-in is NOT correct.He doesn't stage.Autostart takes over,redlight for Driver B.Driver A makes the pass down track.
Driver B goes to the tower and says he wants a rerun and that the dial-in wasn't correct,that is why he didn't stage.Driver A says that he never should have pre-staged if the dial-in was not correct.
Who is right?
What should have happened?
Rerun or loss for Driver B?

Rory McNeil · 09-08-2009, 02:38 AM

I agree, you should always check the dial before lighting the 1rst bulb. If you already have the pre stage bulb lit, and then notice the dial is wrong, I would back out right away, but the starter may or may not allow that. My opinion is, you light the first bulb, you "bought" the dial.

Chris1529 · 09-08-2009, 04:36 AM

I'm with Rory on that

Phillip marvetz · 09-08-2009, 09:31 AM

Once you prestage you own it.

Bimbo Jones · 09-08-2009, 10:32 AM

Art, Once you have prestaged first the other guy can go in as fast as they like. They still had to light one bulb at a time, and once they are in now with three bulbs lit the autostart clock has started for you to be staged or timed out. If you feel the need to stage first, then I suggest you let the other guy prestage first and then roll in at a faster pace. Autostart has cleaned up about 90% of the staging games. It helps prevent getting hometowned by a track.

larry dowty · 09-08-2009, 10:49 AM

ART after our talk i called our starter and bimbo jones is right it is legal to stage second an light both bulbs as fast as you want

09-07-2009, 05:20 PM	#11
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 469 Likes: 79 Liked 69 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Rules for staging? Here's an amendment to the staging rule as posted on the NHRA web page before Indy: STAGING DELETE: “When staging in Super Stock, Stock, Super Comp, Super Gas, or Super Street categories, both contestants must activate their pre-stage lights before either may advance into the stage beams.” REPLACE WITH: “When staging in Super Stock, Stock, Super Comp, Super Gas, Super Street, or Competition Eliminator categories, both contestants must activate their pre-stage lights before either may advance into the stage beams.” Apparently, they only just now added Comp to the list. c

09-07-2009, 07:57 PM	#12
larry dowty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: tacoma wa Posts: 281 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Rules for staging? chuck does that mean it is ok to wait for the guy to light his top bulb, and then roll in and light both with out pausing ? seems to me the second guy has a little bit of a advantage? __________________ larry dowty 6388 SS

09-07-2009, 08:17 PM	#13
Another Friendly Racer Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 147 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Rules for staging? It just means that a driver can not stage until the other driver is pre staged. If you choose to prestage 2nd and roll right in and stage in one big motion, so be it.

09-07-2009, 09:04 PM	#14
larry dowty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: tacoma wa Posts: 281 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Rules for staging? i did not know that was legal ok with me just did not know the second guy could go in with out stopping. __________________ larry dowty 6388 SS

09-07-2009, 09:15 PM	#15
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,333 Likes: 5 Liked 262 Times in 100 Posts	Re: Rules for staging? Here is another staging scenario that happened to a friend of mine at a bracket race.I think I am explaining this right...... Driver A lights the pre-stage.Driver B lights the pre-stage.Driver A stages.Driver B notices that his dial-in is NOT correct.He doesn't stage.Autostart takes over,redlight for Driver B.Driver A makes the pass down track. Driver B goes to the tower and says he wants a rerun and that the dial-in wasn't correct,that is why he didn't stage.Driver A says that he never should have pre-staged if the dial-in was not correct. Who is right? What should have happened? Rerun or loss for Driver B? Last edited by 442OLDS; 09-07-2009 at 09:19 PM.

09-08-2009, 02:38 AM	#16
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,257 Likes: 245 Liked 939 Times in 259 Posts	Re: Rules for staging? I agree, you should always check the dial before lighting the 1rst bulb. If you already have the pre stage bulb lit, and then notice the dial is wrong, I would back out right away, but the starter may or may not allow that. My opinion is, you light the first bulb, you "bought" the dial. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

09-08-2009, 04:36 AM	#17
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,367 Likes: 6 Liked 57 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Rules for staging? I'm with Rory on that __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

09-08-2009, 09:31 AM	#18
Phillip marvetz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lynden ,WA Posts: 820 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Rules for staging? Once you prestage you own it.

09-08-2009, 10:32 AM	#19
Bimbo Jones Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 109 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Rules for staging? Art, Once you have prestaged first the other guy can go in as fast as they like. They still had to light one bulb at a time, and once they are in now with three bulbs lit the autostart clock has started for you to be staged or timed out. If you feel the need to stage first, then I suggest you let the other guy prestage first and then roll in at a faster pace. Autostart has cleaned up about 90% of the staging games. It helps prevent getting hometowned by a track. Last edited by Bimbo Jones; 09-08-2009 at 01:16 PM.

09-08-2009, 10:49 AM	#20
larry dowty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: tacoma wa Posts: 281 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Rules for staging? ART after our talk i called our starter and bimbo jones is right it is legal to stage second an light both bulbs as fast as you want __________________ larry dowty 6388 SS