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Old 08-27-2023, 06:24 PM   #1
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does anybody know why deep staging in the sportsman classes is illegal? courtesy staging?
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Old 08-27-2023, 08:17 PM   #2
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does anybody know why deep staging in the sportsman classes is illegal? courtesy staging?
It's illegal because about 20 years ago, a few guys were winning regularly, deep. Jody, Toby, Donny Sabin, Scott Welborn.
A couple of cowboys decided to try to throw these off their game plan. They'd do a short burnout and rush up and stage and try to leave the D/S'er no time to stage.
Supposedly, NHRA put it to a vote and DEEP lost..
Problem there was the majority, who didn't go deep got to vote on something that was none of their business. On top of that, some guys right here on C/R got to mouth off, when they had no idea why the guys were going deep. They didn't understand the process at all.
Don't believe me ? Check the archives here.
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Old 08-27-2023, 10:05 PM   #3
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One can still deep stage, but they have to do it while the tree is coming down.

The reaction timer starts when the stage beam is exited, not the pre stage beam. It takes practice.

There is also no rule saying at what angle you stage, perpendicular to the beams or extreme example of aiming toward or away from Christmas tree to get "excessive rollout".
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The same reason blinders were outlawed. There is a number of WHINEY azz CHICKEN chits among us…. The AGENDA is, “If I don’t do it, then NO ONE needs to do it” ……
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One can still deep stage, but they have to do it while the tree is coming down.

The reaction timer starts when the stage beam is exited, not the pre stage beam. It takes practice.
Sometimes it’s better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt…
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sometimes it’s better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt…
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My understanding and experience is if you roll
in deep enough to turn off the Pre-Stage Bulb
you immediately Red Light in our classes.
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:19 AM   #9
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It's illegal because about 20 years ago, a few guys were winning regularly, deep. Jody, Toby, Donny Sabin, Scott Welborn.
A couple of cowboys decided to try to throw these off their game plan. They'd do a short burnout and rush up and stage and try to leave the D/S'er no time to stage.
Supposedly, NHRA put it to a vote and DEEP lost..
Problem there was the majority, who didn't go deep got to vote on something that was none of their business. On top of that, some guys right here on C/R got to mouth off, when they had no idea why the guys were going deep. They didn't understand the process at all.
Don't believe me ? Check the archives here.
Yeah, for those that thought that eliminating deep staging would throw Jody Lang off his game, must certainly be disappointed!
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:26 AM   #10
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What I didn’t like was Deep written on the window, it told the starter don’t do anything until the deep stager was ready to have the tree to start. The racers that did a quick burnout and staged quickly did they do anything wrong? Staging is like playing checkers.
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