If an advocate could be found - what would you say?

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas

How's things in Birtherstan, Mark?


pS

I don't know what that means.. All Greek to me

[Frank Castros]

What if the N.H.R.A. allowed Competition, Super Stock and Stock eliminators to compete at selected regional national events including class eliminations and higher payouts?
Just for example Pomona, Gainesville, Maple Grove, Joliet, Ennis, Las Vegas and Indy.
Would that satisfy the needs of these racers who enjoy national events?

[jmcarter]

I’m a bit confounded by some of the attacks here. Ken needs to get out the Ban(g) stick....we are in a community, a kindler gentler version as opposed to YB and FB.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

I haven't yet, but you never know. Why do you ask?

I interpret your question and my reply of "no" to mean that whatever I have to say is worthless here.

Personally, I don't see all the hype about national events. My favorite events are divisionals. I run my local national event because it is close and another chance to run Super Comp. One year I ran two nationals because I had a gold card. That said, a national event poses unique challenges do to the schedule and I'd love to win one.

In my post, I made an honest effort to think of how other classes would be affected differently if sportsman racers were pushed out of national events. That's why I brought up class eliminations although that doesn't happen at all events. That is a unique element to nationals. If they were to contest class at an equivalent number of divisionals, what else is missing from your sportsman racing experience?

If I'm wrong, I'm happy to be wrong as long as I learn something as a result.

You are indeed wrong. There lots of folks who race the Super Categories and Stock or Super Stock. If you you already race in Stock or Super Stock you would already have an insight to the question you asked previously. Also, I asked for comments from all Categories because the quota system effects all of us.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

You are indeed wrong. There lots of folks who race the Super Categories and Stock or Super Stock. If you you already race in Stock or Super Stock you would already have an insight to the question you asked previously. Also, I asked for comments from all Categories because the quota system effects all of us.

What kind of reply is that? People race them because they are there, myself included. If they weren't there, I'd move along to what was available and it would be fine.

I'm interested in what would really be taken away if nationals weren't an option, and class eliminations were still contested elsewhere.

[J.R. Haddad]

Frank, if you added Brainerd, Seattle and Topeka, that would be a good
representation of the country. The Pro Stockers like a reduced schedule,
and the expense that goes with it. Since we are confident that prize money will not increase in comparison to entry fees, let's reduce our
expenses. Division and National Points would be best 5 out of 6
division races, and best 2 out of 3, or 2 out of 4 National events.
That reduces NHRA's cash flow, which I'm not trying to do, but something has to give. My two cents, no change given. J.R.

[Bruce Noland]

Tony,
In short, I said lots of folks run in several categories and if you ran in Stock or Super Stock you would have a better insight into your class racing question. And then I said that I had invited comments from all Categories? What else am I missing here????

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by J.R. Haddad

Frank, if you added Brainerd, Seattle and Topeka, that would be a good
representation of the country. The Pro Stockers like a reduced schedule,
and the expense that goes with it. Since we are confident that prize money will not increase in comparison to entry fees, let's reduce our
expenses. Division and National Points would be best 5 out of 6
division races, and best 2 out of 3, or 2 out of 4 National events.
That reduces NHRA's cash flow, which I'm not trying to do, but something has to give. My two cents, no change given. J.R.

Your two cents worth is very much appreciated.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Tony,
In short, I said lots of folks run in several categories and if you ran in Stock or Super Stock you would have a better insight into your class racing question.

I'm interested in a little more insight than the sportsman racing version of "it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand."

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

I'm interested in a little more insight than the sportsman racing version of "it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand."

Ok, specifically you made a comment about your opinion not being of any real value on this thread. And I said you were wrong, but I did not specifically address the value of your comment. Now you're not happy about being wrong.