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Old 11-19-2008, 08:25 PM   #21
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Looks like the green weenie could use alfs front end kit .
What does the kit consist of, is it readily available and how much is it?
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:29 PM   #22
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ball joints custom,tie bars and bull nose afcos.
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Old 11-21-2008, 08:00 PM   #23
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Well, the rule book for 2008 says,"Rear trailing arms may be replaced with NHRA accepted OEM type aftermarket units.Aftermarket lower unit must be non-adjustable and have bushed ends(no heims).Aftermarket upper unit may be adjustable and use heim ends instead of bushings." I guess the purpose in that is to prevent even the appearance of an alteration in the wheelbase of the car.The Alf Wiebe set up allows for centering the rear end housing, and adjusting the differential pinion shaft angles. It also allows for suspension preload up to a point. Another thing,how many 64-72 cars of any make all have a square frame after this much use and years of abuse? Drag racing isn't exactly easy on things.Tony Janes had a discussion with some tech people and apparantly, an official word is forthcoming, probably by the start of next season.Hopefully,unanimous interpretation of acceptance of what constitutes compliance will be the result.
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:53 PM   #24
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Well, the rule book for 2008 says,"Rear trailing arms may be replaced with NHRA accepted OEM type aftermarket units.Aftermarket lower unit must be non-adjustable and have bushed ends(no heims).Aftermarket upper unit may be adjustable and use heim ends instead of bushings." I guess the purpose in that is to prevent even the appearance of an alteration in the wheelbase of the car.The Alf Wiebe set up allows for centering the rear end housing, and adjusting the differential pinion shaft angles. It also allows for suspension preload up to a point. Another thing,how many 64-72 cars of any make all have a square frame after this much use and years of abuse? Drag racing isn't exactly easy on things.Tony Janes had a discussion with some tech people and apparantly, an official word is forthcoming, probably by the start of next season.Hopefully,unanimous interpretation of acceptance of what constitutes compliance will be the result.
As long as they are going to be consistent...

But I'd be pissed if I owned the Wiebe system and they ended up making it illegal.

Please keep us up to date on this, I am going from a powerglide to a th-200 this year and want to do some suspension work to keep up with the harder launches.

Looks like i'll be ordering a roll bar for HRpartsnstuff...
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:54 PM   #25
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Are they tall ball joints? What are tie bars? I agree that it needs the bull nose afcos, 1925lbs crashing back down on my KONI's aint cuttin it.
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Old 12-21-2008, 12:47 AM   #26
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72 malibu that is one bad street car. It is still not a stocker. The A body is one of the toughest stocker to run for two reasons, one is the rear suspension and the other is that the motors are some ot the most powerful in stock. Traction is the issue with 9 inch tires. The 1970 454 is so powerful, I elected to stay with a L78 402 in my stocker.

Alf builds one system that works with the high power A bodies front and rear suspension. It really works. The A body twist is eliminated. The cars hook in most car washes. His front end kit makes the car faster. On the launch, the front tires don't look like a duck and scrub off speed when they land. An A body has the upper arms tilted backwards for anti dive. The front is up in the air at the top end catching air. His system takes out the anti dive and increases the aero dynamics. When I changed to his new system last year, I gained 2.5 miles per hour in the traps.

I have run a rear Weibe system since I started running my A body 6 years ago. The only reason to not buy one is that you want to have the pride that I designed my own system or I don't have the money to buy a complete system. I just figured how many years can I race? I want my car to run. I don't need to reinvent the wheel. He builds a proven system.

If you ever get to spend time with him, he is as straight a person that you will find. He will help you at his own expense. What a great guy.

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Old 12-21-2008, 01:10 AM   #27
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Thanks Rick. It appears that I still have some work to do on the front suspension.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:03 AM   #28
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I saw this car run at Mokan. Impressive. How big is that motor?
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Old 12-21-2008, 07:22 AM   #29
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Thanks...Its 505 cubes, 10.5-1 compression, dual plane intake, 1000hp carb.
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Old 12-28-2008, 05:32 PM   #30
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I still can't figure out how NHRA ever approved the Wiebe suspension system for Stock Eliminator.

I've got the rule book here and it clearly states the lower trailing arms must be non-adjustable and have bushed ends, no heims. Upper is allowed to be adjustable and have heim ends, but not the lowers.

The Wiebe lowers have heims and are adjustable making them illegal the way I read the rules.

Also, the rules state that the upper rear housing attachment point may be relocated, but it doesn't not state you can on the lowers (Alf system drops the lower front bolt below the frame with a bracket), clearly a grey area in the rules.
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