2012 Camaro in the NHRA Classguide

[BRETV]

D. Johns,

The guy I sold it to, pulled the G-Force out and sold it, also sold the good 9 inch 3rd member and strange brakes off the car. He put an auto in it and tried to drive on the street. He sold to a guy that ran it in the NHRA Unleashed series a couple races. Then he sold it to guy that called me a couple months ago, and supposedly going to make it a legal stocker again.




Bret Velde

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by zracer305

Chime in Gump!!!

First, I have to say that I love the CTS-V and would like to see it in the guide with a reasonable classification. But, reallity says that won't happen any time soon.

I have said it before on here, but the current Stock Eliminator rules have gone in a direction that is totally opposite from what the factories are producing for the street. That is why the current factory race cars came into being. Like them or not, they are built according to the current rules.

For the CTS-V to be a good combination it would need a weight break that reflects the items that can legally be removed (maybe 3500 lbs). It would also need a realistic HP number (maybe 425-450). GM could submit this, but as your e-mails point out, they won't.

To suggest that it is a good idea to build a 4250 lb CTS-V for CC/SA is crazy. Just a little research would tell you how badly it would be out gunned (as others have pointed out). Keep in mind that the LS3 based cylinder heads are pretty good, but not anything like the LS7 heads used on the blown COPO's. Add the small blower and you have a hard uphill road to climb.

Sorry for the late reply, but I was in El Salvador working when I posted my last comment and haven't had much in the way of internet time until now.

[zracer305]

Well said GUMP! And with that being said, IMO this is one of the biggest reasons Stock and Super Stock is a dying breed. Along with Super Street, Super Gas and Super Comp, all of these classes are bracket racing and not drag racing. Boring to drive and boring for fans. Whatever happened to drag racing where you try to go faster than the last pass? It's in Comp and all the Pro Categories and they seem to do well. That's real drag racing!!! If we want to save the sport IMO we need to go back to the old days allowing aftermarket parts for blocks and heads. Quit this index stuff do away with all the timers and get back to driving the cars.

Originally Posted by GUMP

First, I have to say that I love the CTS-V and would like to see it in the guide with a reasonable classification. But, reallity says that won't happen any time soon.

I have said it before on here, but the current Stock Eliminator rules have gone in a direction that is totally opposite from what the factories are producing for the street. That is why the current factory race cars came into being. Like them or not, they are built according to the current rules.

For the CTS-V to be a good combination it would need a weight break that reflects the items that can legally be removed (maybe 3500 lbs). It would also need a realistic HP number (maybe 425-450). GM could submit this, but as your e-mails point out, they won't.

To suggest that it is a good idea to build a 4250 lb CTS-V for CC/SA is crazy. Just a little research would tell you how badly it would be out gunned (as others have pointed out). Keep in mind that the LS3 based cylinder heads are pretty good, but not anything like the LS7 heads used on the blown COPO's. Add the small blower and you have a hard uphill road to climb.

Sorry for the late reply, but I was in El Salvador working when I posted my last comment and haven't had much in the way of internet time until now.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by zracer305

. Whatever happened to drag racing where you try to go faster than the last pass?

It outgrew it's own viability, my friend.

[Randall Klein]

Whoa!

"......it's in Comp and the Pros and they seem to be doing well..."

I don't think so, short fields, a handful of owners.....anyone proposing heads up racing is not thinking this through


One example...the 30 car fields for Hemi shoot outs are over.....take 2 to 3 "all-in-players" and the pretenders stay home when they realize they ain't got no shot

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Randall Klein

Whoa!

"......it's in Comp and the Pros and they seem to be doing well..."

I don't think so, short fields, a handful of owners.....anyone proposing heads up racing is not thinking this through

And there you have it, short and sweet!

[RonP]

Maybe CC/AT should be considered??
Then no need for NHRA classification guide acceptance.

GM is coming out with the 3.6L turbo engine for Caddy in '14.
Thanks
RonP

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by zracer305

IMO this is one of the biggest reasons Stock and Super Stock is a dying breed. Along with Super Street, Super Gas and Super Comp, all of these classes are bracket racing and not drag racing. Boring to drive and boring for fans.

I for one don't agree as driving my Camaro COPO CC/SA is anything but boring .Its put the fun back for me and I can tell you that the fans love it .How do I know ? They ( the fans ) tell it to me whenever I race -- they make it a point to stop and chat with me and take pictures .And they tell me its neat watching the big handicap starts against the traditional stockers .All that and its made my heart pump fast like I'm twenty - two again .Boring ? ? ? Not a chance .................