What's with D-2? - Page 2

Don Himes · 11-21-2007, 02:18 PM

I'm guessing here, but it seems to me, what with the cost of fuel and the strict enforcement of the Florida over-the-road rules, we may be lucky to have a full field at the Gators! Heck, it cost me over $400 in fuel to get home from Maple Grove this year. That same trip will cost about $500 next Feb. plus race gas, entry fee, and perhaps a FINE from the friendly "Sunshine State". We'ins down here are still trying to learn to vote properly!!

Ya'll come back now, ya hear!............................................. ..... :-)

Ron Ortiz · 11-21-2007, 05:25 PM

"The Don",

See I told you it would'nt take that long for you to start being Floridaized. And you said it was never going to happen, we'ins, Ha Ha.

As far as the grouping of races in D2, you can look at it several ways.

a) If you are from anywhere north of Florida, you can get in alot of sunshine and be racing at the same time, except for the occasional shower.
b) You can save fuel as there is several races that are in close proximity to each other.
c) You know where you stand point wise after a month and a half. ie. 3 divisionals and 1 national.
4) Your pocketbook takes a wallop in a very short time.
e) You are away for a while.
f) There is plenty of time to party and see the sights.
g) You can get discouraged numerous times in succession.
h) Your highs and lows can make you feel like a yo yo.
i) You stay sharp at racing, it is the only thing you are doing.
j) Sooner or later you have to go back to not so great weather.
#1) You stay in Florida and give up on going back to where ever.

Do not forget that if you wanted to run both NHRA & IHRA, you could be quite busy

Immokalee, Feb 2 divisionals, 1 national week 1
Bradenton, Feb 1 divisional week 2
Gainesville, Feb 1 divisional week 3
Lakeland Feb test/tune/parking/Disney week 4
Orlando, Mar 1 divisional week 5
Gainesville, Mar 1 national week 6

and I'm not sure, but I think IHRA has 2 divisionals in Douglass, GA on the way out of Florida for week 7.

Welcome to D2.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA ya'all come back, hear.

Woodro Josey · 11-21-2007, 05:40 PM

Hey Ron you must have helped with the scheduling???????You guys have a Great Thanksgiving!

Joe Pinkston · 11-21-2007, 08:40 PM

Tracy;

The only problem with NHRA having division points races or a national open in the Carolinas is there are no tracks in S.C. or N.C. right now that choose to be NHRA sanctioned. When I thought about it I wasn't sure and had to check the NHRA web site to confirm this. I wish they would kind of spread out the schedule a little more throughout the year, but Bill hasn't rang my phone to ask my opinion.

As far as the division director scheduling national opens and division points races, he has to get track operators that want to host these races and feel that they are a worthwile effort that they will make a profit at. The division director cannot force them to host these races. It's my understanding the reason Carl doesn't run the national open in Dec. at Orlando any more is after Bill agreed to schedule a national open at Montgomery a week or 2 prior to his date it took a considerable amount of car count away and it was no longer profitable for him.

Joe Pinkston · 11-21-2007, 08:42 PM

Oh yeah, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, and for those going to West Palm, safe traveling.

Tracy Robbins · 11-22-2007, 10:56 AM

I wonder if the underlying reason for not having any tracks in the Carolina's goes back to division 2 management? Just a few years ago there were 3 tracks (Darlington, Fayetteville, and Jacksonville) and they have now all switched to IHRA, I wonder what the reason is? Two of those had grade points earning races scheduled about 3 years ago, Fayetteville w/ a national open and Darlington w/ a division 2 race and they both got mysteriously dropped from the schedule before their dates arrived. I had all of my licenses/numbers updated to participate hoping to finally get to run some NHRA and then the events were dropped. We are fortunate to have all the IHRA division 9 events that we do plus a couple of combo series so we don't necessarily need more races...it's just fun to run something different every now and then.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

Tracy Robbins · 11-23-2007, 09:57 AM

Could be more opportunities for them on the IHRA side...Darlington got a divsional their first year back. Hopefully they will make enough money to justify new concrete walls and we will once again have the "original Winternationals" (IHRA) back in SC. Wouldn't that be great!!!

Stephen & Horace Johnson · 11-23-2007, 12:15 PM

I totally agree, I cant make those div races 4 in a row, I'll do good to make 2 that early in the season. My question is, what happened to Montgomery?? There isnt a spring race or a winter race there anymore.

Joe Pinkston · 11-23-2007, 06:54 PM

From where I live the Div. 2 schedule is not bad....first 4 races are all within 3 hours from home (so I'm fortunate in that respect). Almost like running IHRA Div. 9 and living in N.C. Just wish they were spread out a little more on the calander.

Stephen and Horace....I think when Montgomery had the division points race and the national open there Bob Dennis was one of the partners in the group that owned the track. If that was true then you had a owner that was interested in class racing and that always helps. I wouldn't mind seeing another division points race at Montgomery. You guys are in the area close to George Howard, run the idea by him.

john clegg · 11-23-2007, 08:12 PM

Just a word of caution. legal length of toter homes type rigs is 65 feet in all states. no exceptions. no permits. no excuses. and yes I have a long one and I did pay a big fine in texas two years ago. If you get stopped be expecting the trooper to get out the tape measure. He will ask you to hold one end. at least he let me go on after writing the ticket. In most states, the cop could make you disconnect and use a short truck to move the trailer away.

11-21-2007, 02:18 PM	#11
Don Himes Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Port Charlotte, Fla. Posts: 160 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What's with D-2? I'm guessing here, but it seems to me, what with the cost of fuel and the strict enforcement of the Florida over-the-road rules, we may be lucky to have a full field at the Gators! Heck, it cost me over $400 in fuel to get home from Maple Grove this year. That same trip will cost about $500 next Feb. plus race gas, entry fee, and perhaps a FINE from the friendly "Sunshine State". We'ins down here are still trying to learn to vote properly!! Ya'll come back now, ya hear!............................................. ..... :-) __________________ Don Himes 2075

11-21-2007, 05:25 PM	#12
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 962 Likes: 28 Liked 255 Times in 87 Posts	Re: What's with D-2? "The Don", See I told you it would'nt take that long for you to start being Floridaized. And you said it was never going to happen, we'ins, Ha Ha. As far as the grouping of races in D2, you can look at it several ways. a) If you are from anywhere north of Florida, you can get in alot of sunshine and be racing at the same time, except for the occasional shower. b) You can save fuel as there is several races that are in close proximity to each other. c) You know where you stand point wise after a month and a half. ie. 3 divisionals and 1 national. 4) Your pocketbook takes a wallop in a very short time. e) You are away for a while. f) There is plenty of time to party and see the sights. g) You can get discouraged numerous times in succession. h) Your highs and lows can make you feel like a yo yo. i) You stay sharp at racing, it is the only thing you are doing. j) Sooner or later you have to go back to not so great weather. #1) You stay in Florida and give up on going back to where ever. Do not forget that if you wanted to run both NHRA & IHRA, you could be quite busy Immokalee, Feb 2 divisionals, 1 national week 1 Bradenton, Feb 1 divisional week 2 Gainesville, Feb 1 divisional week 3 Lakeland Feb test/tune/parking/Disney week 4 Orlando, Mar 1 divisional week 5 Gainesville, Mar 1 national week 6 and I'm not sure, but I think IHRA has 2 divisionals in Douglass, GA on the way out of Florida for week 7. Welcome to D2. Ron Ortiz U/SA ya'all come back, hear. __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

11-21-2007, 05:40 PM	#13
Woodro Josey Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 805 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: What's with D-2? Hey Ron you must have helped with the scheduling???????You guys have a Great Thanksgiving! __________________ Woodro Josey 2002 STK

11-21-2007, 08:40 PM	#14
Joe Pinkston Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Williston, Fl. Posts: 352 Likes: 2 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: What's with D-2? Tracy; The only problem with NHRA having division points races or a national open in the Carolinas is there are no tracks in S.C. or N.C. right now that choose to be NHRA sanctioned. When I thought about it I wasn't sure and had to check the NHRA web site to confirm this. I wish they would kind of spread out the schedule a little more throughout the year, but Bill hasn't rang my phone to ask my opinion. As far as the division director scheduling national opens and division points races, he has to get track operators that want to host these races and feel that they are a worthwile effort that they will make a profit at. The division director cannot force them to host these races. It's my understanding the reason Carl doesn't run the national open in Dec. at Orlando any more is after Bill agreed to schedule a national open at Montgomery a week or 2 prior to his date it took a considerable amount of car count away and it was no longer profitable for him. __________________ Joe Pinkston 2155 S/ST

11-21-2007, 08:42 PM	#15
Joe Pinkston Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Williston, Fl. Posts: 352 Likes: 2 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: What's with D-2? Oh yeah, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, and for those going to West Palm, safe traveling. __________________ Joe Pinkston 2155 S/ST

11-22-2007, 10:56 AM	#16
Tracy Robbins Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 838 Likes: 2 Liked 17 Times in 9 Posts	Re: What's with D-2? I wonder if the underlying reason for not having any tracks in the Carolina's goes back to division 2 management? Just a few years ago there were 3 tracks (Darlington, Fayetteville, and Jacksonville) and they have now all switched to IHRA, I wonder what the reason is? Two of those had grade points earning races scheduled about 3 years ago, Fayetteville w/ a national open and Darlington w/ a division 2 race and they both got mysteriously dropped from the schedule before their dates arrived. I had all of my licenses/numbers updated to participate hoping to finally get to run some NHRA and then the events were dropped. We are fortunate to have all the IHRA division 9 events that we do plus a couple of combo series so we don't necessarily need more races...it's just fun to run something different every now and then. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! __________________ Tracy Robbins SS 9766

11-23-2007, 09:57 AM	#17
Tracy Robbins Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 838 Likes: 2 Liked 17 Times in 9 Posts	Re: What's with D-2? Could be more opportunities for them on the IHRA side...Darlington got a divsional their first year back. Hopefully they will make enough money to justify new concrete walls and we will once again have the "original Winternationals" (IHRA) back in SC. Wouldn't that be great!!! __________________ Tracy Robbins SS 9766

11-23-2007, 12:15 PM	#18
Stephen & Horace Johnson Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 949 Likes: 323 Liked 148 Times in 46 Posts	Re: What's with D-2? I totally agree, I cant make those div races 4 in a row, I'll do good to make 2 that early in the season. My question is, what happened to Montgomery?? There isnt a spring race or a winter race there anymore.

11-23-2007, 06:54 PM	#19
Joe Pinkston Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Williston, Fl. Posts: 352 Likes: 2 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: What's with D-2? From where I live the Div. 2 schedule is not bad....first 4 races are all within 3 hours from home (so I'm fortunate in that respect). Almost like running IHRA Div. 9 and living in N.C. Just wish they were spread out a little more on the calander. Stephen and Horace....I think when Montgomery had the division points race and the national open there Bob Dennis was one of the partners in the group that owned the track. If that was true then you had a owner that was interested in class racing and that always helps. I wouldn't mind seeing another division points race at Montgomery. You guys are in the area close to George Howard, run the idea by him. __________________ Joe Pinkston 2155 S/ST

11-23-2007, 08:12 PM	#20
john clegg Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: victoria texas Posts: 13 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 1 Post	Re: What's with D-2? Just a word of caution. legal length of toter homes type rigs is 65 feet in all states. no exceptions. no permits. no excuses. and yes I have a long one and I did pay a big fine in texas two years ago. If you get stopped be expecting the trooper to get out the tape measure. He will ask you to hold one end. at least he let me go on after writing the ticket. In most states, the cop could make you disconnect and use a short truck to move the trailer away.