What can be done? - Page 2

Mike Jones · 10-14-2018, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I think that modern Pro cars and Promods are really pushing the definition of "door slammer". Don't slam them too hard.
I like real doors.

... as usual... your right Billy
MJ

X-TECH MAN · 10-14-2018, 02:25 PM

A lot could be done but NHRA will not do it. Have you priced a Pro Stock transmission lately? Why allow a clutch less 5 speed and multi disc clutches. The engines alone are priced as much as a modest house. why use special blocks and heads ? use normal production parts. No body templates anymore. The cars look like jelly beans just painted differently. It seems to me that its as bad as stock elim. these days with all they are allowed to use. . Is it because NHRA does not want to invest the man power to inspect these so call cars ?
Same deal for Top Fuel and Funny cars going to fast and running on a 1000 Ft. track. The NHRA could demand them to use smaller blowers with less boost, less percentage of nitro, use just one fuel pump like they use to do. Less cubic inches for Pro Stock and the fuel cars then go back to a real 1/4 mile ! The funny cars (great name for them) do not even look like a car. The wings are ridicules looking but are needed to keep them from flying off the track.
Its all become a circus !

RKelliher · 10-14-2018, 03:16 PM

I was told by a top tech official that they had a plan to save comp.and pro stock and were told they where not interested in saving them.

GATOR · 10-14-2018, 03:57 PM

A post from my buddy Chris McGaha posted on compplus forum:
(pretty much sums up NHRA racing)

Mac4264

"Your right there is a long line of people that would love to professional race. Seems to be a problem keeping all these people from showing up like always has been. This sport has no money in it and never will. So it’s left for the wealthy to play in. But even the wealthy eventually look at there whole card and say really. Has there been people who made it drag racing absolutely. WJ is perfect example. But if he started today or even 5 years ago he wouldn’t make it.
Even Schumacher has stated he will not fund cars out of his own pocket so where is that going to leave fuel racing. Ok take money from pro stock yes they did how did that work out for them they still came up short on fields and when they did hmm wonder where that money went.
Remember pro stock guys have been called the millionaires club. We didn’t become this racing so maybe the mass exit your seeing is guys finally seeing how ridiculous this has become from the give and take aspect. But you think the nhra excutives are smart but yet they are running off millionaire customers left and right. But you need to put the kool aid down and or bong cause I’m having a hard time seeing all these people that are lined up to spend millions of there on money to race day and night 24 weekends a year with absolutely no ROI."

Link:
http://forum.competitionplus.com/sho...t=16393&page=5

Macdaddy · 10-14-2018, 04:25 PM

The whole platform appears to lean towards a certain manufacturer these days, when the dodges gained ground in the factory supercar show, they added 50 lbs.go back to weight breaks and lbs per cubic in to at least give the other brands a chance to be competitive without a billion dollar sponsor. Make the class interesting to the point guys like the professor and the likes would be interested again. Nobody wants a race program powered by endless dollars and pointless returns. The whole problem lies with nhra and their blind uneducated changes based solely on their bottom line...,it is at this point in time that wally has achieved mach 7 spinning in his grave....

Billy Nees · 10-14-2018, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macdaddy

The whole problem lies with nhra and their blind uneducated changes based solely on their bottom line...,

HA!!!

X-TECH MAN · 10-14-2018, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

HA!!!

X's 2 !

midnightbluS10 · 10-14-2018, 10:54 PM

Bob Book already set up a 400ci pro stock class a couple of years ago. It folded after 2 years because of no participation.

Nathan Stinson · 10-15-2018, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAURICE BLENDHEIM

ProMod is not the answer. Is it coincidental that ProMod is mentioned more now, since the 2017 closing of the Ringaling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus. The (un) class is an un-regimented Circus Sideshow that lacks a relative structure, required to enhance innovative competition. MB (opinion)

May not be the answer, but at least they have more than a full field of pro mods, and I would wager the average spectator would rather watch pro mod than pro stock.

fastlane · 10-15-2018, 04:40 PM

Factory showdown was to be the regular guys prostock heads up pro tree all 3 manufacturers starting life as real cars. But it is following in the footsteps of PS but moving way faster to oblivion in only a few years you already have pro teams taking over, NHRA changing what is allowed from the original build and the cost to enter for just a car to be competitive is at least 200 grand plus trailer motorhome equipment spare parts crew and travel. For NHRA to even stay alive in the future it needs to come up with ways for various classes to run heads up that is what the people in the seats understand and want to see. When I started racing in the mid 60s every stock class car ran heads up against the others in there class and the winner of each class then ran in a handicap format for overall stock eliminator. And the stands were full at all the tracks and the people in the stands understood what was going on.

10-14-2018, 02:25 PM	#12
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,207 Likes: 1,049 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: What can be done? A lot could be done but NHRA will not do it. Have you priced a Pro Stock transmission lately? Why allow a clutch less 5 speed and multi disc clutches. The engines alone are priced as much as a modest house. why use special blocks and heads ? use normal production parts. No body templates anymore. The cars look like jelly beans just painted differently. It seems to me that its as bad as stock elim. these days with all they are allowed to use. . Is it because NHRA does not want to invest the man power to inspect these so call cars ? Same deal for Top Fuel and Funny cars going to fast and running on a 1000 Ft. track. The NHRA could demand them to use smaller blowers with less boost, less percentage of nitro, use just one fuel pump like they use to do. Less cubic inches for Pro Stock and the fuel cars then go back to a real 1/4 mile ! The funny cars (great name for them) do not even look like a car. The wings are ridicules looking but are needed to keep them from flying off the track. Its all become a circus !

10-14-2018, 03:16 PM	#13
RKelliher Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 140 Likes: 27 Liked 147 Times in 47 Posts	Re: What can be done? I was told by a top tech official that they had a plan to save comp.and pro stock and were told they where not interested in saving them.

10-14-2018, 03:57 PM	#14
GATOR Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 53 Likes: 48 Liked 56 Times in 17 Posts	Re: What can be done? A post from my buddy Chris McGaha posted on compplus forum: (pretty much sums up NHRA racing) Mac4264 "Your right there is a long line of people that would love to professional race. Seems to be a problem keeping all these people from showing up like always has been. This sport has no money in it and never will. So it’s left for the wealthy to play in. But even the wealthy eventually look at there whole card and say really. Has there been people who made it drag racing absolutely. WJ is perfect example. But if he started today or even 5 years ago he wouldn’t make it. Even Schumacher has stated he will not fund cars out of his own pocket so where is that going to leave fuel racing. Ok take money from pro stock yes they did how did that work out for them they still came up short on fields and when they did hmm wonder where that money went. Remember pro stock guys have been called the millionaires club. We didn’t become this racing so maybe the mass exit your seeing is guys finally seeing how ridiculous this has become from the give and take aspect. But you think the nhra excutives are smart but yet they are running off millionaire customers left and right. But you need to put the kool aid down and or bong cause I’m having a hard time seeing all these people that are lined up to spend millions of there on money to race day and night 24 weekends a year with absolutely no ROI." Link: http://forum.competitionplus.com/sho...t=16393&page=5

10-14-2018, 04:25 PM	#15
Macdaddy Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 8 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: What can be done? The whole platform appears to lean towards a certain manufacturer these days, when the dodges gained ground in the factory supercar show, they added 50 lbs.go back to weight breaks and lbs per cubic in to at least give the other brands a chance to be competitive without a billion dollar sponsor. Make the class interesting to the point guys like the professor and the likes would be interested again. Nobody wants a race program powered by endless dollars and pointless returns. The whole problem lies with nhra and their blind uneducated changes based solely on their bottom line...,it is at this point in time that wally has achieved mach 7 spinning in his grave.... Last edited by Macdaddy; 10-14-2018 at 08:59 PM.

10-14-2018, 10:54 PM	#18
midnightbluS10 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 13 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What can be done? Bob Book already set up a 400ci pro stock class a couple of years ago. It folded after 2 years because of no participation.

10-15-2018, 04:40 PM	#20
fastlane Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Calabasas Ca Posts: 138 Likes: 3 Liked 53 Times in 20 Posts	Re: What can be done? Factory showdown was to be the regular guys prostock heads up pro tree all 3 manufacturers starting life as real cars. But it is following in the footsteps of PS but moving way faster to oblivion in only a few years you already have pro teams taking over, NHRA changing what is allowed from the original build and the cost to enter for just a car to be competitive is at least 200 grand plus trailer motorhome equipment spare parts crew and travel. For NHRA to even stay alive in the future it needs to come up with ways for various classes to run heads up that is what the people in the seats understand and want to see. When I started racing in the mid 60s every stock class car ran heads up against the others in there class and the winner of each class then ran in a handicap format for overall stock eliminator. And the stands were full at all the tracks and the people in the stands understood what was going on.