Make the Chevrolet Win - Page 2

joe huestis · 09-08-2018, 09:02 AM

Can't hang with the Dodges ? Then work on your stuff ! And yes I'm a Chevy guy too !

Bill Marshall · 09-08-2018, 09:10 AM

71,72 All over again. hey Dodge you sponsor a couple of races perhaps you should have a word with NHRA. time for the chevy and Ford guys to get to work. No one was upset when the copo cars were kicking butt the last few years

Jack McCarthy · 09-08-2018, 09:44 AM

Was pretty embarrassing that you all kicked thier *** at the Chevy us Nationals but it’s bull**** because you guys worked and improved from last year now you gotta tow a trailer ... if I hadn’t lost 40 pounds I’d volunteer to drive so you didn’t have to modify the vehicles

And BTW we missed you at Indy sir 😬

BRETV · 09-08-2018, 09:46 AM

Hey NHRA, leave it alone!!!! You finally have a heads up class that people are interested in watching and participating. Let the Ford and Chevy guys go to work and try to out run the Dodge's, that's what makes it a competition and brings the best out of every camp. And for the record I'm a FFFFord guy.

Bret Velde
2003 ???

Class of 65 · 09-08-2018, 11:04 AM

Watching the posts on the Nats, and what scant TV coverage there was, I find the Factory Stock class more interesting than Pro Stock and believe it generates more interest in our sport than Pro Stock does. NHRA can and probably will tinker with this class until it is just another prevue for highlighting one particular brand - and it will die just as Pro Stock appears to be doing. Just my .02.

Carguy49 · 09-08-2018, 11:32 AM

Factory Stock Showdown is for the factory hot rods to rip it up. Here we go again, NHRA setting rules and then changing them.

Leave this class alone. Let the other guys (Ford and Chevy) work on their stuff and run with the Dodges.

Wayne Totaro · 09-08-2018, 11:46 AM

NHRA just leave things alone! They have something that is good and is drawling fan interest and they have to screw with things.

Todd Hoven · 09-08-2018, 01:54 PM

If you look at the first 2015 DragPac Dodge that made its debut in the spring of 2016 compared what is running now in 2018 that it still being called a 2015 they are very different cars. Cut out radiator supports, been at least 5 different blocks. A blower spacer and some other updates that just showed up on these cars. If you go to Ford and Chevrolet and want to buy parts to build a XX car you can go anywhere and buy the same parts these guys are running. With the Dodge you have to buy from DSR and that’s the only place you can get it. Only a few select people have been able to acquire replacement parts for these cars. Dodge makes and keeps developing new parts for the car they built 3 years ago without any prior approval from NHRA. This is not what the class was supposed to become.
There is more to this story than the world picking on Dodge. Plus they are 5 MPH faster than any of the other competition. There are real good
people working on Chevrolet’s and Fords. When they are a 10th + behind that’s a problem. .06 or so that’s just a slight advantage.

Is 50 pounds really going to hamstring this dominant cars? Absolutely not. They will still be a tenth ahead of everyone else. To keep the class growing, exciting and maintain some parody some concessions have to be made for the good of the class. If it was a Chevrolet or Ford dominance it would should still be wise to do the same. Keep your heart out of your judgement and look at the class as a whole.

kdanner · 09-08-2018, 03:43 PM

Like Jeff said, it's more than just the showdown cars. For example, why is the 2015 Camaro SS shipping weight only 3320, a good 500 lbs less than what they actually are? The 2010 has what appear to be far more legitimate weights, 3780 automatic and 3849 stick. Are there other examples where the weight is that far from reality?

EDIT: I did find another one. 2009-2013 Challengers at 3600 lbs. That's every bit as bogus.

TOSTO RACING · 09-08-2018, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Cimarolli

I see your point Jeff, but the older Chevy stuff, some of it anyway is rated out of competition, like my 69 Nova, 396 iron head rated @ 412. Only has to weigh 3875 in C/SA.

I'm also with you here Jim.

09-08-2018, 09:02 AM	#11
joe huestis Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Youngsville, N.C. Posts: 605 Likes: 258 Liked 371 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Make the Chevrolet Win Can't hang with the Dodges ? Then work on your stuff ! And yes I'm a Chevy guy too ! __________________ Joe Huestis "Annie's Song" Racing U/SA 2724 Youngsville, NC

09-08-2018, 09:10 AM	#12
Bill Marshall Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 170 Likes: 104 Liked 43 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Make the Chevrolet Win 71,72 All over again. hey Dodge you sponsor a couple of races perhaps you should have a word with NHRA. time for the chevy and Ford guys to get to work. No one was upset when the copo cars were kicking butt the last few years

09-08-2018, 09:44 AM	#13
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,284 Likes: 22 Liked 352 Times in 92 Posts	Re: Make the Chevrolet Win Was pretty embarrassing that you all kicked thier * at the Chevy us Nationals but it’s bull** because you guys worked and improved from last year now you gotta tow a trailer ... if I hadn’t lost 40 pounds I’d volunteer to drive so you didn’t have to modify the vehicles And BTW we missed you at Indy sir 😬 __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

09-08-2018, 09:46 AM	#14
BRETV Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 488 Likes: 2,999 Liked 598 Times in 148 Posts	Re: Make the Chevrolet Win Hey NHRA, leave it alone!!!! You finally have a heads up class that people are interested in watching and participating. Let the Ford and Chevy guys go to work and try to out run the Dodge's, that's what makes it a competition and brings the best out of every camp. And for the record I'm a FFFFord guy. Bret Velde 2003 ???

09-08-2018, 11:04 AM	#15
Class of 65 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryville, TN Posts: 8 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Make the Chevrolet Win Watching the posts on the Nats, and what scant TV coverage there was, I find the Factory Stock class more interesting than Pro Stock and believe it generates more interest in our sport than Pro Stock does. NHRA can and probably will tinker with this class until it is just another prevue for highlighting one particular brand - and it will die just as Pro Stock appears to be doing. Just my .02.

09-08-2018, 11:32 AM	#16
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,839 Likes: 1,759 Liked 2,225 Times in 594 Posts	Re: Make the Chevrolet Win Factory Stock Showdown is for the factory hot rods to rip it up. Here we go again, NHRA setting rules and then changing them. Leave this class alone. Let the other guys (Ford and Chevy) work on their stuff and run with the Dodges. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends.

09-08-2018, 11:46 AM	#17
Wayne Totaro Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 232 Likes: 1 Liked 38 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Make the Chevrolet Win NHRA just leave things alone! They have something that is good and is drawling fan interest and they have to screw with things. __________________ J. Wayne Totaro 1117 STK

09-08-2018, 01:54 PM	#18
Todd Hoven VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,329 Likes: 883 Liked 720 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Make the Chevrolet Win If you look at the first 2015 DragPac Dodge that made its debut in the spring of 2016 compared what is running now in 2018 that it still being called a 2015 they are very different cars. Cut out radiator supports, been at least 5 different blocks. A blower spacer and some other updates that just showed up on these cars. If you go to Ford and Chevrolet and want to buy parts to build a XX car you can go anywhere and buy the same parts these guys are running. With the Dodge you have to buy from DSR and that’s the only place you can get it. Only a few select people have been able to acquire replacement parts for these cars. Dodge makes and keeps developing new parts for the car they built 3 years ago without any prior approval from NHRA. This is not what the class was supposed to become. There is more to this story than the world picking on Dodge. Plus they are 5 MPH faster than any of the other competition. There are real good people working on Chevrolet’s and Fords. When they are a 10th + behind that’s a problem. .06 or so that’s just a slight advantage. Is 50 pounds really going to hamstring this dominant cars? Absolutely not. They will still be a tenth ahead of everyone else. To keep the class growing, exciting and maintain some parody some concessions have to be made for the good of the class. If it was a Chevrolet or Ford dominance it would should still be wise to do the same. Keep your heart out of your judgement and look at the class as a whole. __________________ Todd Hoven 1035 Stock Last edited by Todd Hoven; 09-08-2018 at 03:30 PM.

09-08-2018, 03:43 PM	#19
kdanner Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 219 Likes: 47 Liked 34 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Make the Chevrolet Win Like Jeff said, it's more than just the showdown cars. For example, why is the 2015 Camaro SS shipping weight only 3320, a good 500 lbs less than what they actually are? The 2010 has what appear to be far more legitimate weights, 3780 automatic and 3849 stick. Are there other examples where the weight is that far from reality? EDIT: I did find another one. 2009-2013 Challengers at 3600 lbs. That's every bit as bogus. __________________ K Danner STK 468 Last edited by kdanner; 09-08-2018 at 03:54 PM.