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Old 12-11-2017, 04:42 PM   #61
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I meant you don't even race, but want to talk about rules that would not even apply to you, if you were actually even racing. Would it be that Rambler in your profile pic? A 13 or 14 second car?


I was talking about last season and yes it's 14 second car (at 5800 ft)
btw, it started life as a stock class car but for unforeseen circumstances that got put on hold while I recovered. again, it has nothing to do with my question.
no, I don't not run "class" but I DO run in a stick-shift series....
and if I am able to ever run in stock, it WILL affect me
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Old 12-11-2017, 06:22 PM   #62
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I was talking about last season and yes it's 14 second car (at 5800 ft)
btw, it started life as a stock class car but for unforeseen circumstances that got put on hold while I recovered. again, it has nothing to do with my question.
no, I don't not run "class" but I DO run in a stick-shift series....
and if I am able to ever run in stock, it WILL affect me
So, "E Shift" being allowed in some of the older cars, in case you might race Stock again, is what you are concerned with?
Reaching for the shifter in a 14 second car is less of a deal than a nine second car.
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Old 12-11-2017, 06:38 PM   #63
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So, "E Shift" being allowed in some of the older cars, in case you might race Stock again, is what you are concerned with?
Reaching for the shifter in a 14 second car is less of a deal than a nine second car.
funny, i'm in the other lane (at times)with guys with low9/high 8 second cars that don't seem to have a problem finding a shifter....does make me a bit nervous with me not having a cage (but that's next)
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Old 12-11-2017, 09:10 PM   #64
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I really don't see what the big deal is, the EFI cars are allowed to run the Eshift and I know alot of people that cannot run Eshift in the older cars do the 1-2 shift by governor control. So what's all the excitement about. If you think its such an advantage why does everyone keep saying "how hard is it to shift your car?"
If you don't like it build a car where its allowed or petition NHRA to ban it all together!
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:32 AM   #65
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Everyone leaves the line with both hands on the wheel (except maybe Wild Willie Borsch) because at some time a big steering correction was required to save the run. Much more difficult with one hand. This turns into habit and comfort.
I've never left the line with two hands on the wheel in any car I've ever driven. Both my cars have to be shifted into second before 60 feet but that differs between small block/big block and gear ratios etc. The super stock car has to be shifted in the air on the way down from the wheelie or the run and the oil pan are both ruined. I don't think anyone understands what the new rule means. Just make it simple, for starters e-shift in anything pre-1994 should be illegal right? E-shift in any trans other than 4L60E should be illegal right? Just trying to figure this out because I could really use it in my stocker, sometimes I miss that 1-2 shift by 100-200 rpm and my run is affected more than I'd like. That's what somewhat keeps this a driver's game and forces someone to be on point every time they go down the track. Why take that away?
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:06 PM   #66
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I've never left the line with two hands on the wheel in any car I've ever driven. Both my cars have to be shifted into second before 60 feet but that differs between small block/big block and gear ratios etc. The super stock car has to be shifted in the air on the way down from the wheelie or the run and the oil pan are both ruined. I don't think anyone understands what the new rule means. Just make it simple, for starters e-shift in anything pre-1994 should be illegal right? E-shift in any trans other than 4L60E should be illegal right? Just trying to figure this out because I could really use it in my stocker, sometimes I miss that 1-2 shift by 100-200 rpm and my run is affected more than I'd like. That's what somewhat keeps this a driver's game and forces someone to be on point every time they go down the track. Why take that away?
That depends on who you ask , Bobby, and where you're teched.

So you wouldn't want it just for safety reasons?
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Get them to add "1994 or later" to the rule and I will gladly take mine out. Until then my computer controlled car will run Eshift but if they do I assume everyone will go to running the correct year transmission in their cars also.
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So you wouldn't want it just for safety reasons?
For safety reasons and for those wanting to keep two hands on the wheel, I'd say use a governor or switch to super stock.
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So you wouldn't want it just for safety reasons?
Now, that right there is the worst reason I've ever heard of for a rule change!
We're racing cars here not playing dominos.
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