Index Change Rumor

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Jon Sarrett

Stock A - C 11.00 - 11.40
SS I - K 10.70 - 11.25

Thanks, Jon.

In other words, an A/SA car that runs only 5/10ths under, can still run 2/10ths under in Super Stock, without even switching off the alternator.

Are the indexes/ hp ratings too soft? Sure they are, but you'll never sell any changes to them in today's climate.
Not when Pomona Stk fills up with 7 gp's, and S/S is only half full.

Just another unintended consequence of the big NHRA Sportsman Squeeze out.

[Paul Precht]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Thanks, Jon.

In other words, an A/SA car that runs only 5/10ths under, can still run 2/10ths under in Super Stock, without even switching off the alternator.

Are the indexes/ hp ratings too soft? Sure they are, but you'll never sell any changes to them in today's climate.
Not when Pomona Stk fills up with 7 gp's, and S/S is only half full.

Just another unintended consequence of the big NHRA Sportsman Squeeze out.

An A/SA is 5/10s under on a 10.50 pass, that's 1.5 tenths over the SS/EA index of 10.35.

[Quo Pro Joe]

Originally Posted by Paul Precht

An A/SA is 5/10s under on a 10.50 pass, that's 1.5 tenths over the SS/EA index of 10.35.

Except the cars dont run in SS/EA.

[Paul Precht]

Originally Posted by Quo Pro Joe

Except the cars dont run in SS/EA.

I was thinking of my car, I see now he's talking about an LT1.

[Jim Hanig]

[QUOTE=Ed Wright;603444]

Originally Posted by SDT1DYI

Interesting idea to add 5 to all indexes.


Make them half a second SLOWER?? Did I understand correctly?
Everybody runs under now, so we are simply bracket racing like it is.

I was thinking they need to be half a second faster.
Who can not run over half a second under now? If there are people who can not, maybe they need to work on their stuff harder?

Ed sometimes working on your stuff won't make it any faster, until you throw a lot of money at it and sometimes that doesn't help.

[Ed Wright]

[QUOTE=Jim Hanig;603813]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Ed sometimes working on your stuff won't make it any faster, until you throw a lot of money at it and sometimes that doesn't help.

Jim, do you know anybody that can not run more than five tenths under their index?

[kansas stocker]

Here's the part I don't get. If I've got a car that runs 1.5 under why wouldn't I want a bunch of cars in my class that can only run .1 under? I'm old. What am I missing?
Pete

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by kansas stocker

Here's the part I don't get. If I've got a car that runs 1.5 under why wouldn't I want a bunch of cars in my class that can only run .1 under? I'm old. What am I missing?
Pete

It can't be just a "class thing", unless some don't like the lack of competition or challenge when they come up against a like-classed car that they have covered by a ton. But the faster car can still screw up and the embarrassment factor of losing is directly proportionate to the disparity of the respective performance potential of the 2.

I don't know to what extent it exists, but it does and has been mentioned before -

Some people who have the time, money and/or dedication to make a vehicle of their choice run 1.5 under don't like it when some people who only have enough time, money and/or dedication to make their vehicle of choice run only .5 under or less.....but can still put them on the trailer during regular eliminations!

* Maybe they don't think it's "fair" that they spend $100k on a car, but they get beat by a bottom qualifier who spent $10k.

* Maybe they don't like the extra spot they have to give because the opponent barely runs the index.

As was mentioned before, the indexes aren't THAT easy, especially for someone who doesn't have the the knowledge, resources and/or time to start with. The index should be more often referred to as a minimum performance standard. That is one of many things that separates class racing from brackets and it helps put things into a better perspective. The index should be "correct" if the HP factor is correct. But that's another eternally controversial subject.

We're a sportsman class, so it shouldn't be mostly about money. YOU choose your "weapon". Choose wisely. But don't discourage people who want to support class racing despite all of the rules and difficulties.

[Camarob859]

This ������ ⬆️ Why not do the personal index thing to cars that have the capability of 1.200 I’m relatively new to class racing and mines gone .570 under ONCE , with a tail wind, downhill , on a full moon....... suppose we can all just go back to bracket racing and not worry about indexes anymore

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Camarob859

This ������ ⬆️ Why not do the personal index thing to cars that have the capability of 1.200 I’m relatively new to class racing and mines gone .570 under ONCE , with a tail wind, downhill , on a full moon....... suppose we can all just go back to bracket racing and not worry about indexes anymore

Local tracks have bracket racing for you.