Lifter Rule

Trevor Weiss · 12-19-2016, 01:10 PM

The hydrolic lifter being allowed to switch to a solid lifter I was wondering how everyone thought about making all the Stick indexes the same as the Automatic indexes? And no I do not mean combine autos and sticks, just level out qualifying for I don't believe a Stick car has a performance advantage anymore and has not for quite some time so why punish a person for running a Stick in qualifying since that is the only place it will have any effect. Just my 2 cents worth and does not mean I am right or wrong.

Jim Hanig · 12-19-2016, 07:17 PM

I think tha8t would be fair. The stick comb have little advantaged.if any

Greg Reimer 7376 · 12-19-2016, 07:41 PM

Watch what you ask for. If the auto trans index got matched to the stick indexes, that could turn into an unpopular concept.

B/S 428 · 12-19-2016, 08:09 PM

FYI, it's already combined for the slower classes

Trevor Weiss · 12-20-2016, 10:59 AM

I have not honestly looked at the lower class indexes in for ever, so with that being said what would be wrong with making the upper classes the same as the lower class indexes. I know it will never happen, and if the lower classes are all ready the same then what would be wrong with the upper classes being the same?

Billy Nees · 12-20-2016, 12:04 PM

Only K,L and T are the same. Some middle class indexes are lower in the auto classes than in the stick classes. Watch what you wish for. If they combine the indexes then the next thing they'll be doing is combining autos and sticks. And with the AHFS and same indexes, why wouldn't they?

B/S 428 · 12-20-2016, 02:37 PM

Billy, I talked to pat about this because I wanted to make my comet a stick car U/S and he told me the indexes are the same and the AHFS affects both, I found this confusing, someone running an automatic that gets hit with HP also hits the stick combo

Billy Nees · 12-20-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by B/S 428

Billy, I talked to pat about this because I wanted to make my comet a stick car U/S and he told me the indexes are the same and the AHFS affects both, I found this confusing, someone running an automatic that gets hit with HP also hits the stick combo

Now THAT'S funny stuff right there! Pat would be wrong. Auto and sticks are different to the AHFS. But Pat SHOULD know that.

Jack Matyas · 12-20-2016, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Only K,L and T are the same. Some middle class indexes are lower in the auto classes than in the stick classes. Watch what you wish for. If they combine the indexes then the next thing they'll be doing is combining autos and sticks. And with the AHFS and same indexes, why wouldn't they?

Billy - Some others already have this - all FS cars run the the same index - stick or auto .

B/S 428 · 12-20-2016, 03:45 PM

I'm just saying what I was told please investigate, the 72-76 maverick/comet 2bbl has no stick listed and when I questioned it, I was told auto/stick were the same.

12-19-2016, 01:10 PM	#1
Trevor Weiss Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 67 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lifter Rule The hydrolic lifter being allowed to switch to a solid lifter I was wondering how everyone thought about making all the Stick indexes the same as the Automatic indexes? And no I do not mean combine autos and sticks, just level out qualifying for I don't believe a Stick car has a performance advantage anymore and has not for quite some time so why punish a person for running a Stick in qualifying since that is the only place it will have any effect. Just my 2 cents worth and does not mean I am right or wrong. __________________ Trevor Weiss 2891 STK

12-19-2016, 07:17 PM	#2
Jim Hanig Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pukwana SD Posts: 858 Likes: 555 Liked 97 Times in 47 Posts	Re: Lifter Rule I think tha8t would be fair. The stick comb have little advantaged.if any

12-19-2016, 07:41 PM	#3
Greg Reimer 7376 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora,Calif. Posts: 1,111 Likes: 164 Liked 649 Times in 208 Posts	Re: Lifter Rule Watch what you ask for. If the auto trans index got matched to the stick indexes, that could turn into an unpopular concept.

12-19-2016, 08:09 PM	#4
B/S 428 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 78 Likes: 14 Liked 130 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Lifter Rule FYI, it's already combined for the slower classes

12-20-2016, 10:59 AM	#5
Trevor Weiss Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 67 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lifter Rule I have not honestly looked at the lower class indexes in for ever, so with that being said what would be wrong with making the upper classes the same as the lower class indexes. I know it will never happen, and if the lower classes are all ready the same then what would be wrong with the upper classes being the same? __________________ Trevor Weiss 2891 STK

12-20-2016, 12:04 PM	#6
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,223 Likes: 3,103 Liked 6,791 Times in 1,524 Posts	Re: Lifter Rule Only K,L and T are the same. Some middle class indexes are lower in the auto classes than in the stick classes. Watch what you wish for. If they combine the indexes then the next thing they'll be doing is combining autos and sticks. And with the AHFS and same indexes, why wouldn't they? __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS World's greatest Under-Achiever! Last edited by Billy Nees; 12-20-2016 at 12:53 PM. Reason: brain dead

12-20-2016, 02:37 PM	#7
B/S 428 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 78 Likes: 14 Liked 130 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Lifter Rule Billy, I talked to pat about this because I wanted to make my comet a stick car U/S and he told me the indexes are the same and the AHFS affects both, I found this confusing, someone running an automatic that gets hit with HP also hits the stick combo

12-20-2016, 03:45 PM	#10
B/S 428 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 78 Likes: 14 Liked 130 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Lifter Rule I'm just saying what I was told please investigate, the 72-76 maverick/comet 2bbl has no stick listed and when I questioned it, I was told auto/stick were the same. Last edited by B/S 428; 12-20-2016 at 04:06 PM.