Pray for ALL racers and families - Page 5

Superfan1 · 05-18-2020, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Wells

Wow you are a commie, LOL

Even though I don't agree with Bruce concerning the existence of God; he certainly has the right and the freedom to express his views. That is what makes this country great.

Stan Weiss · 05-18-2020, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1

Even though I don't agree with Bruce concerning the existence of God; he certainly has the right and the freedom to express his views. That is what makes this country great.

Exactly. This country was founded on separation of church and state. Which not only means you can believe or not believe in GOD. But also if you believe in GOD you not someone else or this country gets to choice who you believe in..

Stan

Greg Reimer 7376 · 05-18-2020, 04:52 PM

John, your story was epic. Very true to the nature of God. We may have differences of theology, even within the same church, but one thing is true. We can't deny a firsthand experience. One wiser than I summed it up very well with the quotable phrase," A man with a testimony has nothing to fear from a man with an argument". A person can deny another one's beliefs, but he will never be able to deny the truth of what happens.
Four terms come to mind- theology, doctrine, experience, and Scripture. Theology is the study of who God is and how He does things. Doctrine is man's opinion of what God does and doesn't do. Experience is the reality of what God does and has done. Scripture is God's revelation of who He is.Only two of the four are indisputable. I'm glad for the experiences of many and myself. That's what counts. The rest is subject to revision by the collision with reality.

jmcarter · 05-18-2020, 06:29 PM

Thank you John for sharing that. Having a “mountain top” experience is definitely something that changes your life. When encountering someone who denies God my first thought is the certain knowledge that one day that person will encounter Christ. I do not know when that will occur but I’m certain our merciful and loving God is always working to gather all his children.

Bruce Noland · 05-18-2020, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRETV

No, you said God didn't exist, it's on you to prove it. So again, who created you?

And you are right about religion, it does control people with it's rules. What I'm saying is, this is ALL about a relationship, not a set of religious rules to follow. We follow Him and His rules or I should say commandments because we are thankful for what HE has done and died for us. And the commandments He put into place is for our own good and well being. Just like when you were a kid and your father gave you rules to follow, to keep you safe and out of trouble. Again, it's about a relationship, NOT a religion or set of rules.

Bret Velde
2003 FS/??

Lol. You're running now. You've been out here making extraordinary claims and can't prove one single word of it and now you're in a corner. Not one bit sorry for you. Prove it or admit you can't. Its not up to me to prove a darn thing when it comes to the gods.

BRETV · 05-18-2020, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Lol. You're running now. You've been out here making extraordinary claims and can't prove one single word of it and now you're in a corner. Not one bit sorry for you. Prove it or admit you can't. Its not up to me to prove a darn thing when it comes to the gods.

Running? Who's running? Sorry for me? You came on here disagreeing with me, saying that there is no God.The proof is, look in the mirror at yourself, if He didn't create you, who or what did?

By the way, by no means I'm trying to judge or condemn you and your belief, I'm just asking your opinion on who you think created you, if God didn't?

Bret Velde
2003 FS/??

Mark Yacavone · 05-18-2020, 08:47 PM

Short break time..before this gets out of hand:

BRETV · 05-18-2020, 08:59 PM

Mark,

Don't worry it won't get outta hand, No anger from my side at all. Just a discussion. We will probably agree to disagree, but that's okay. Thanks for the video!

Bret Velde
2003 FS/??

Mike Pearson · 05-19-2020, 09:56 AM

[QUOTE=BRETV;614895]Mark,

Don't worry it won't get outta hand, No anger from my side at all. Just a discussion. We will probably agree to disagree, but that's okay. Thanks for the video!

Yup. Everyone has their own views and beliefs when it comes to religion. There is no right or wrong it’s just what you believe. Follow your beliefs and don’t try to force them on someone that believes different from you.

Carguy49 · 05-19-2020, 10:40 AM

God has been very good to me.

I have 11 grandchildren and 3 great grandchildren.

I have a daughter that brings me groceries every 2 weeks so that I don't have to get out so much. The other's live out of state and we talk often.

I have many friends that I talk with very often, including God through prayer each day.

I am very grateful for what I have and I feel blessed to have many friends to talk with including those on Class Racer, THANK YOU.

Thank You and God Bless each of you that have either looked at or contributed to this thread.

05-18-2020, 04:52 PM	#43
Greg Reimer 7376 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora,Calif. Posts: 1,111 Likes: 164 Liked 649 Times in 208 Posts	Re: Pray for ALL racers and families John, your story was epic. Very true to the nature of God. We may have differences of theology, even within the same church, but one thing is true. We can't deny a firsthand experience. One wiser than I summed it up very well with the quotable phrase," A man with a testimony has nothing to fear from a man with an argument". A person can deny another one's beliefs, but he will never be able to deny the truth of what happens. Four terms come to mind- theology, doctrine, experience, and Scripture. Theology is the study of who God is and how He does things. Doctrine is man's opinion of what God does and doesn't do. Experience is the reality of what God does and has done. Scripture is God's revelation of who He is.Only two of the four are indisputable. I'm glad for the experiences of many and myself. That's what counts. The rest is subject to revision by the collision with reality. Last edited by Greg Reimer 7376; 05-18-2020 at 08:38 PM.

05-18-2020, 06:29 PM	#44
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,122 Likes: 1,978 Liked 2,707 Times in 853 Posts	Re: Pray for ALL racers and families Thank you John for sharing that. Having a “mountain top” experience is definitely something that changes your life. When encountering someone who denies God my first thought is the certain knowledge that one day that person will encounter Christ. I do not know when that will occur but I’m certain our merciful and loving God is always working to gather all his children. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock

05-18-2020, 08:47 PM	#47
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,418 Likes: 2,582 Liked 4,453 Times in 1,694 Posts	Re: Pray for ALL racers and families Short break time..before this gets out of hand: __________________ We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for..... Will Rogers

05-18-2020, 08:59 PM	#48
BRETV Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 489 Likes: 3,050 Liked 598 Times in 148 Posts	Re: Pray for ALL racers and families Mark, Don't worry it won't get outta hand, No anger from my side at all. Just a discussion. We will probably agree to disagree, but that's okay. Thanks for the video! Bret Velde 2003 FS/??

05-19-2020, 09:56 AM	#49
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,321 Likes: 546 Liked 1,629 Times in 502 Posts	Re: Pray for ALL racers and families [QUOTE=BRETV;614895]Mark, Don't worry it won't get outta hand, No anger from my side at all. Just a discussion. We will probably agree to disagree, but that's okay. Thanks for the video! Yup. Everyone has their own views and beliefs when it comes to religion. There is no right or wrong it’s just what you believe. Follow your beliefs and don’t try to force them on someone that believes different from you. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

05-19-2020, 10:40 AM	#50
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,843 Likes: 1,777 Liked 2,232 Times in 596 Posts	Re: Pray for ALL racers and families God has been very good to me. I have 11 grandchildren and 3 great grandchildren. I have a daughter that brings me groceries every 2 weeks so that I don't have to get out so much. The other's live out of state and we talk often. I have many friends that I talk with very often, including God through prayer each day. I am very grateful for what I have and I feel blessed to have many friends to talk with including those on Class Racer, THANK YOU. Thank You and God Bless each of you that have either looked at or contributed to this thread. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends.