Indy Teardown Warning - Page 9

Chad Fergen · 08-21-2019, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

And hope the NHRA catches the cheaters at another race !

But if they are "stock" and being checked, how can they cheat? #askingforafriend

X-TECH MAN · 08-21-2019, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chad Fergen

But if they are "stock" and being checked, how can they cheat? #askingforafriend

None are "STOCK" today.

curtis reed · 08-21-2019, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Fuller

I find this thread very interesting because during my career as a machine shop supervisor for a fortune 500 company we had a CMM in the shop. It did not have a laser attachment but used a probe. I attend classes for the purpose of learning the software and hardware concerning this piece of equipment for two weeks. My best operator attended classes for about four weeks and was very good at using this for a number of purposes.

In 1991 when the company purchased this machine it cost $56,000.00.It was a Browne & Sharpe 7-10-7. Smaller ones were cheaper but still not significantly. I don't know what a CMM with a laser attachment that had the ability to perform a 3D scan on a cylinder head would cost today. I feel comfortable saying that if NHRA were to start doing this at national events it would be best to contract someone to do this because of the complexity of this procedure. Being able to compare the scanned data to the CAD file of a know stock head would take a talented and well trained professional.

I am not saying this can or cannot be done at Indy but, it will be interesting to see what is going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Terry Cain

We had one too.
Had to have it calibrated once a year and the factory tech guy was always concerned . about the floor being level because we had BIG presses close by that shook the floor all day long. If they try to do it in a trailer I'd be real concerned.

Things have really changed over the years. We demoed this unit recently. Hand held with a digital camera showing the section being measured. $55,000

https://www.keyence.com/ss/products/...m_3d/index.jsp

Chad Fergen · 08-21-2019, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

None are "STOCK" today.

#crickets...

HR9121 · 08-21-2019, 09:55 PM

As usual the only people up here complaining or throwing out accusations are the people who don't race or are no longer involved!
My heads have not been touched, no porting or whatever else goes on and the valves have been done completely within the rules and it makes pretty good power and overall is a "fast" car as far as the index goes. Maybe all you conspiracy theorist need to go back and watch some more network news and stay off Classracer.......

X-TECH MAN · 08-22-2019, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chad Fergen

#crickets...

Before its all over we shall see......LOL !

Tom Broome · 08-22-2019, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HR9121

As usual the only people up here complaining or throwing out accusations are the people who don't race or are no longer involved!
My heads have not been touched, no porting or whatever else goes on and the valves have been done completely within the rules and it makes pretty good power and overall is a "fast" car as far as the index goes. Maybe all you conspiracy theorist need to go back and watch some more network news and stay off Classracer.......

Got it. In your mind the only racers who count, are current racers. Those who help others race need to keep their opinions, or experiences, to themselves.

Billy Nees · 08-23-2019, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Broome

Got it. In your mind the only racers who count, are current racers. Those who help others race need to keep their opinions, or experiences, to themselves.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Should a non-Racer be allowed to influence policy? I think not.

HR9121 · 08-23-2019, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Broome

Got it. In your mind the only racers who count, are current racers. Those who help others race need to keep their opinions, or experiences, to themselves.

Just as Billy said and I would add those that come up here day after day to just complain about the current system when they are not involved in the sport at all should get a life and move on. It's ridiculous to see negative post one after another by the same people who don't race NHRA events all day every day!

James Perrone · 08-23-2019, 10:10 AM

Ok question.
Being the new unwritten policy of if you go 120 you will be torn down
I know It’s Indy
. But rules is rules.
Ok let’s hear it. Yes. Or No

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HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: Indy Teardown Warning As usual the only people up here complaining or throwing out accusations are the people who don't race or are no longer involved! My heads have not been touched, no porting or whatever else goes on and the valves have been done completely within the rules and it makes pretty good power and overall is a "fast" car as far as the index goes. Maybe all you conspiracy theorist need to go back and watch some more network news and stay off Classracer....... __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

08-23-2019, 10:10 AM	#90
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,669 Likes: 3,358 Liked 1,803 Times in 422 Posts	Re: Indy Teardown Warning Ok question. Being the new unwritten policy of if you go 120 you will be torn down I know It’s Indy . But rules is rules. Ok let’s hear it. Yes. Or No __________________ james perrone 1290 STK