Sportsman Council phone conference Tonight!

[mopar]

as a s/st racer it amazes me when i hear that s/st is an ENTRY LEVEL$$$$. the only category that could be considered ENTRY would be Z stock (not for long) the issue of spectators will not change because they come for the PROS. lower the indexes will only keep new racers away , more $$$$ to compete. lets look at National points and Events for s/st

Ron Waters s/st 1346

[TS310C]

Originally Posted by sc1153

I say GET RID OF ALCOHOL (the class not the drinks), and have friday as time runs, and saturday have one time run and race eliminations until we cant anymore, then on sunday NO TIME RUNS, and race another race, and complete what was not completed on saturday. Obviously would have to give more time for those in late from the sat race and racing the sun race too (especially with double entries)

As far as alcohol, let them run at the national events and exhibition events only. not for nothing they screw up the track and take WAY too much time more than the benefit of the additional spectators. Top Sportsman and Top Dragster will be bringing in the spectators, so we dont need ALCOHOL!

I agree completely about the alcohol cars. Last weekend in Earlville at the Div 5 race every time they ran we were down for 1.5 hours min for clean up. It was completely ridiculous! It is amazing they got the race done in time! If these guys can't make one stinking pass without blowing up they need to go!

[krugracing12]

Get rid of the .370 or .360 tree and few people that are missing might come back. They change from the .4 to .5 tree with a computer program change, why not adjust the computer program to put the S/C and S/G classes back the way they were. There is nothing more frustrating than having .035 in the box one week and have to "snoop her in" for a .025 the next. No one in their right mind would repeatedly bring a car to a Div or Nat race that can only manage a .040 light. The touring sportsmen with mega-dollar equipment will always be there, but if you want the larger fields again, you need to make it more competitive for less money.

Bill Krug
TD 1531
S/C 1531
S/G 153K

[sc7667]

Originally Posted by krugracing12

Get rid of the .370 or .360 tree and few people that are missing might come back. They change from the .4 to .5 tree with a computer program change, why not adjust the computer program to put the S/C and S/G classes back the way they were. There is nothing more frustrating than having .035 in the box one week and have to "snoop her in" for a .025 the next. No one in their right mind would repeatedly bring a car to a Div or Nat race that can only manage a .040 light. The touring sportsmen with mega-dollar equipment will always be there, but if you want the larger fields again, you need to make it more competitive for less money.

Bill Krug
TD 1531
S/C 1531
S/G 153K

I was out of superclass racing for a couple of years and when I came back I had to go from .035 in the box to .005 to get a decent light. I didn't even know they had changed it until reading this site. I thought I was getting slow at a young age. I dont see how taking .030 out of the tree helps anything since we all have delay boxes. It truly only helps the quicker leaving cars. I like having my car leave a little softer, I find it more consistent.

[SSTHottie1236]

Originally Posted by sc7667

I was out of superclass racing for a couple of years and when I came back I had to go from .035 in the box to .005 to get a decent light. I didn't even know they had changed it until reading this site. I thought I was getting slow at a young age. I dont see how taking .030 out of the tree helps anything since we all have delay boxes. It truly only helps the quicker leaving cars. I like having my car leave a little softer, I find it more consistent.

As much as I liked her, you can blame crying Angelle for the .370 tree. Rumor was it was all because of the "scooters" going red. They should have just changed their tree, not everyone's. Have multiple computer programs, heck, go crazy, let all the classes have something different, doesn't seem hard, they just don't want to do it. I totally agree with Bill. True .400, let us chip these cars down a little or maybe when S/ST gets filled they will enter low car count S/G.
Oh yeah, and don't worry about not knowing. We were testing at Maple Grove a few weeks ago and my boyfriend told the staff to make sure it's a .370 tree for his car. Well they looked at him like he had three heads and then they said to him ".370?!?!?! that's news to me".

Kelli
1236 S/ST

[GaryGoFast]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Travis Miller and Dave Ley (Div. 1) ARE 2 of the best NHRA has. It would be hard to find more dedicated tech people in the sport.

x's 2

[GaryGoFast]

Originally Posted by billy leber

That was rather short for you Oldfield! Now get outside and work on that garage queen , well maybe next year.

Thats was good Leber!!! Bang hit the nail on the head, still love ya Jason.

[GaryGoFast]

Originally Posted by SSTHottie1236

As much as I liked her, you can blame crying Angelle for the .370 tree. Rumor was it was all because of the "scooters" going red. They should have just changed their tree, not everyone's. Have multiple computer programs, heck, go crazy, let all the classes have something different, doesn't seem hard, they just don't want to do it. I totally agree with Bill. True .400, let us chip these cars down a little or maybe when S/ST gets filled they will enter low car count S/G.
Oh yeah, and don't worry about not knowing. We were testing at Maple Grove a few weeks ago and my boyfriend told the staff to make sure it's a .370 tree for his car. Well they looked at him like he had three heads and then they said to him ".370?!?!?! that's news to me".

Kelli
1236 S/ST

I was in Bradenton in 07, D2 director had no idea if a .370 tree was bein used or not, looked at me like I was nuts.

The only way to make S/St a gateway class is to only allow backhalf cars to run it.
My tube car has already cost me a new convertor and tons of testing and I'm still trying to compete on a .370 tree, main reason that i can still run S/St while i keep trying to adjust the car to the.370 and add the delay. When I can be competetive at the tree I would run S/G all the time and rather stay on the stop for 2.5 sec instead of 4.5.

Keep Scotty r

[krugracing12]

7667
I was referring to adding the .030 back to the tree so that slower reacting cars can still compete with a good light. there were a lot of cars (especially S/G) that could barely catch a .400 tree, let alone be another .030 quicker to react to the .370 tree. As Gary stated he changed parts and tested and still is not competitive yet, and I believe he has 8 second power in light, full tube chassis car. I was also referring to the inconsistent starting line set-ups. At one track I carry .030 or so, at the next place I have to "0" the box and snoop it in to get a light.

Bill

[RacingRicki]

I like the idea of SST racers being able to run multiple classes. Lower payouts and lack of a national championship will keep it somewhat "entry level". Besides, I don't care if multi-car teams want to run SST as well.

I'd run S/G more if the tree wasn't .370. This should really be changed. If people want to see the "hitters" in SST move up then this is crucial. Just because a SST car can run 8's and go 150+ doesn't mean that they can cut a light on the current S/G tree.

I am sort of indifferent on changing the indexes. But if they change them it should apply to all three super classes. If they only change the indexes for S/G and S/C, then it would make it even harder and more expensive for a SST racer to move up.