IHRA vs NHRA - Page 8

442OLDS · 04-16-2009, 07:34 PM

I race BOTH NHRA and IHRA.I look at them like Coca Cola and Pepsi.I am NOT a cola drinker,but if you are thirsty,either one can quench your thirst.

I agree that both of them have room to improve,but they both are good options to have when you race a Stock Eliminator car.I am glad that I can drive one hour West and go to Byron,or drive one hour South and go to Joliet.A few years ago,IHRA tried to raise the payouts to try and attract more cars.In Division 5,this did not work.I don't know what the answer is,but they certainly try.

If you live relatively close to an IHRA event and elect to NOT attend any of their races BECAUSE the final SPECIAL race has NO heads up races in Stock,then you probably wouldn't attend if they had free entry with $1000 cash to all first round losers either.

I am glad that I have a choice.I feel bad for the folks in the Western part of the country who don't have many options.If more people would give IHRA a try,I think they could expand their contingency programs and track sanctions.

Brandon Peterson · 04-16-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mark callanan

Look I want to make this very clear

I am not anti IHRA
NHRA offers more to race for what I like
But I race where and when I can
But I am tired of the same old Ihra guys getting online and pushinf the IHra
Both Nhra and Ihra have many problems they need to work on

Its just for my money the NHRA has more for what I am looking for
I look foward to the Ihar races at Epping
I also look foward to all the Ihra racers who have posted here being at Epping..... the best divison 1 track in the country(really Epping is the best Ihra track in the world)
So lets see out of all you IHRA guys that have posted here who will be at Epping in SeptemberI look foward to seeing you there....

I agree with you mark.....right now it is better to race when and where you can afford to race and travel the distance if your pocket book will allow it...i hope you understand like DW sr. said its nothing personal to anyone here...I myself wanted to get points across and thye some talk they not happy with the way thinkgs are going with NHRA...I would love to race at a NHRA natl. because it is the founding father of all this we do in both sanctions.....but there isn't alot to offer on a divisional level in central NC has there is a natl. level fo NHRA races....last year was only my third year as a driver and a points chaser and we traveled to the outrages distance races in Mich...which was very fun...but the layout this year is totally diff. for the points, it is really based on your pro am points and natl. wins for the trounament race...which not the best friend of alot of racers..(personally it doesn't bother me..as i am a younger gen.. driver and love for the competition)...i would like to go and depending on the season may see you there..if not maybe another time...best of luck on NHRA and IHRA win the epping race i better see you here in NC for the World FInals shootout...(even though there are no heads up in that race..lo)

Dave Ribeiro · 04-16-2009, 08:43 PM

Mark,

Just incase you weren't their ,I have towed to the Epping race three times in the last 8
years ... So I do travel for racing alot.... I hope you will be attending the Points race
on May 1-2 and the National event in Oct. at Va. VMP .... They are both NHRA races..

Yes, I will be coming to at least one and maybe both races at NED, hope to see you there and at Va.. Its all about having choices... Thank god we have them. Its never personal.............enjoy,

LNorton · 04-17-2009, 02:24 AM

Here is a good example of the reason I favor IHRA:

The first NHRA race that I ever ran in Stock was last year at Cecil County. I weighed the car before the first pass and came up 10lbs over. Get to the scales after the first run I come up 5 lbs light. No big deal, just tossed off the sheet, I'll put some weight in. SO I THOUGHT!

The lady running the scales got very nasty with me about it. That kind of attitude over me being light just wasn't called for. Quite frankly, I was fine with being light. Got a time shot, and go put some weight in it... No big deal.

I can't say that one single official had a very good attitude with me all weekend. And I was happy go lucky because the car ran better than it ever had before.

I would much rather race where the officials get just as excited as you do when you make a killer run.

Charley Downing · 04-17-2009, 05:45 AM

Same old **** different day. Where did this post get us? No place just like every other time it comes up. Some NHRA racers just don't like the bracket racer attitude when it comes to STK & SS that it’s just a bracket race. That’s the biggest problem most NHRA racers have with IHRA. With all the classes in IHRA some racers say it’s just like going to your local bracket track and racing with STK and SS numbers because performance is rarely a factor. There are still racers that thrive on making there cars run faster then the guy in the next lane in the same class. I’m not saying I don’t like IHRA, I just feel that STK & SS needs a performance factor because with out it, it’s just bracket 1. Which IHRA already runs at most national events? The problem is IHRA needs CM and those other classes for STK & SS to survive because of lower car counts. So what do you do? IHRA has done a great job with what they have to work with and is a great place to race if you choose to.

Charley Downing · 04-17-2009, 06:11 AM

Same old **** different day. Where did this post get us? No place just like every other time it comes up. Some NHRA racers just don't like the bracket racer attitude when it comes to STK & SS that it’s just a bracket race. That’s the biggest problem most NHRA racers have with IHRA. With all the classes in IHRA some racers say it’s just like going to your local bracket track and racing with STK and SS numbers because performance is rarely a factor. There are still racers that thrive on making there cars run faster then the guy in the next lane in the same class. I’m not saying I don’t like IHRA, I just feel that STK & SS needs a performance factor because with out it, it’s just bracket 1. Which IHRA already runs at most national events? The problem is IHRA needs CM and those other classes for STK & SS to survive because of lower car counts. So what do you do? IHRA has done a great job with what they have to work with and is a great place to race if you choose to.

Michael Beard · 04-17-2009, 12:22 PM

Re: Epping -- I've made the tow to New England Dragway three times, once from Ohio, and twice from North Carolina. I've also been to San Antonio three times, Tulsa once, Immokalee, FL twice, and have made the NC - Michigan trip numerous times. ...what was the point again?

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But I am tired of the same old Ihra guys getting online and pushinf the IHra

I know! Isn't it crazy how people promote things that they *like*?

This to me makes more sense than promoting something that aggravates someone.

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Both Nhra and Ihra have many problems they need to work on

That's the start of getting things done. The next step is to define those problems, and then address them.

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With all the classes in IHRA some racers say it’s just like going to your local bracket track and racing with STK and SS numbers because performance is rarely a factor. There are still racers that thrive on making there cars run faster then the guy in the next lane in the same class.

For those that have cars that run in populated classes, if they would simply all attend, then those classes would be just as populated in IHRA. For those that do not run in populated classes, it's a very hollow argument. For the record, I've had numerous heads-up runs over the years, and there have been many more times where their was a potential heads-up run could have occurred later in eliminations.

Someone had posted this winter that he chose not to run IHRA "because I don't *want* to". I respect that, because he was honest and up front. But for those that are sitting on the fence, I've tried to make this point before: It is what YOU make it. Get involved. Want lots of heads-up runs? Get a bunch of same-classed buddies together, and go to a race. Have other issues? Become a constituent, and voice your opinion. IHRA has made changes over the years because of racer feedback. Just one example: they didn't start laddering cars until about 2001. YOU made that happen.

bsa633 · 04-17-2009, 12:53 PM

Guys with Crate,pure S an GT stockers allready made up there mind = IHRA...for them there isn't a choise.. Location also is a big aspect ofcousre... More NHRA stockers at IHRA races could mean some more headsup for such cars bu not to IHRA-cars.. it would do the exact opposite..and therefore probably less totally too! .IHRA is much frendlier and better.and so on..tech is nicer...(how many have gotten a year off in IHRA last decade?..asking because i have absolutley no clue) We have all seen this debate for the last decade....but the thing NHRA vs IHRA seems to stays the same..

Harry 6674 · 04-17-2009, 01:46 PM

How big are the stocker fields at a typical ihra national event? Last year before the economy turned on some people.

Brandon Peterson · 04-17-2009, 02:01 PM

Rock 1..stk 67 ss 56
Milan stk 56 ss 45
Budds Creek...stk 50.ss 30
Martin..stk 68ss 43
Rock 2..stk 72 ss 51

those were prob the biggest and not including sports natls....Rock 2 had 39 NHRA legal cars the rest was CM and P/S...pertty even field
(not saying all 39 of those run NHRA)

04-16-2009, 07:34 PM	#71
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,340 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: IHRA vs NHRA I race BOTH NHRA and IHRA.I look at them like Coca Cola and Pepsi.I am NOT a cola drinker,but if you are thirsty,either one can quench your thirst. I agree that both of them have room to improve,but they both are good options to have when you race a Stock Eliminator car.I am glad that I can drive one hour West and go to Byron,or drive one hour South and go to Joliet.A few years ago,IHRA tried to raise the payouts to try and attract more cars.In Division 5,this did not work.I don't know what the answer is,but they certainly try. If you live relatively close to an IHRA event and elect to NOT attend any of their races BECAUSE the final SPECIAL race has NO heads up races in Stock,then you probably wouldn't attend if they had free entry with $1000 cash to all first round losers either. I am glad that I have a choice.I feel bad for the folks in the Western part of the country who don't have many options.If more people would give IHRA a try,I think they could expand their contingency programs and track sanctions.

04-16-2009, 08:43 PM	#73
Dave Ribeiro VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Williamsburg, Va.---USA Posts: 1,827 Likes: 1,612 Liked 56 Times in 27 Posts	Re: IHRA vs NHRA Mark, Just incase you weren't their ,I have towed to the Epping race three times in the last 8 years ... So I do travel for racing alot.... I hope you will be attending the Points race on May 1-2 and the National event in Oct. at Va. VMP .... They are both NHRA races.. Yes, I will be coming to at least one and maybe both races at NED, hope to see you there and at Va.. Its all about having choices... Thank god we have them. Its never personal.............enjoy, __________________ Dave Ribeiro 1033 STK

04-17-2009, 02:24 AM	#74
LNorton Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: RacerTees.com Posts: 505 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: IHRA vs NHRA Here is a good example of the reason I favor IHRA: The first NHRA race that I ever ran in Stock was last year at Cecil County. I weighed the car before the first pass and came up 10lbs over. Get to the scales after the first run I come up 5 lbs light. No big deal, just tossed off the sheet, I'll put some weight in. SO I THOUGHT! The lady running the scales got very nasty with me about it. That kind of attitude over me being light just wasn't called for. Quite frankly, I was fine with being light. Got a time shot, and go put some weight in it... No big deal. I can't say that one single official had a very good attitude with me all weekend. And I was happy go lucky because the car ran better than it ever had before. I would much rather race where the officials get just as excited as you do when you make a killer run. __________________ Lee Norton - N229 STK IHRA H/FIA - NHRA O/SA RacerTees.com

04-17-2009, 05:45 AM	#75
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 762 Likes: 16 Liked 648 Times in 89 Posts	Re: IHRA vs NHRA Same old **** different day. Where did this post get us? No place just like every other time it comes up. Some NHRA racers just don't like the bracket racer attitude when it comes to STK & SS that it’s just a bracket race. That’s the biggest problem most NHRA racers have with IHRA. With all the classes in IHRA some racers say it’s just like going to your local bracket track and racing with STK and SS numbers because performance is rarely a factor. There are still racers that thrive on making there cars run faster then the guy in the next lane in the same class. I’m not saying I don’t like IHRA, I just feel that STK & SS needs a performance factor because with out it, it’s just bracket 1. Which IHRA already runs at most national events? The problem is IHRA needs CM and those other classes for STK & SS to survive because of lower car counts. So what do you do? IHRA has done a great job with what they have to work with and is a great place to race if you choose to. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK

04-17-2009, 06:11 AM	#76
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 762 Likes: 16 Liked 648 Times in 89 Posts	Re: IHRA vs NHRA Same old **** different day. Where did this post get us? No place just like every other time it comes up. Some NHRA racers just don't like the bracket racer attitude when it comes to STK & SS that it’s just a bracket race. That’s the biggest problem most NHRA racers have with IHRA. With all the classes in IHRA some racers say it’s just like going to your local bracket track and racing with STK and SS numbers because performance is rarely a factor. There are still racers that thrive on making there cars run faster then the guy in the next lane in the same class. I’m not saying I don’t like IHRA, I just feel that STK & SS needs a performance factor because with out it, it’s just bracket 1. Which IHRA already runs at most national events? The problem is IHRA needs CM and those other classes for STK & SS to survive because of lower car counts. So what do you do? IHRA has done a great job with what they have to work with and is a great place to race if you choose to. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK

04-17-2009, 12:53 PM	#78
bsa633 Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 310 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: IHRA vs NHRA Guys with Crate,pure S an GT stockers allready made up there mind = IHRA...for them there isn't a choise.. Location also is a big aspect ofcousre... More NHRA stockers at IHRA races could mean some more headsup for such cars bu not to IHRA-cars.. it would do the exact opposite..and therefore probably less totally too! .IHRA is much frendlier and better.and so on..tech is nicer...(how many have gotten a year off in IHRA last decade?..asking because i have absolutley no clue) We have all seen this debate for the last decade....but the thing NHRA vs IHRA seems to stays the same..

04-17-2009, 01:46 PM	#79
Harry 6674 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 589 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: IHRA vs NHRA How big are the stocker fields at a typical ihra national event? Last year before the economy turned on some people.

04-17-2009, 02:01 PM	#80
Brandon Peterson Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 436 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: IHRA vs NHRA Rock 1..stk 67 ss 56 Milan stk 56 ss 45 Budds Creek...stk 50.ss 30 Martin..stk 68ss 43 Rock 2..stk 72 ss 51 those were prob the biggest and not including sports natls....Rock 2 had 39 NHRA legal cars the rest was CM and P/S...pertty even field (not saying all 39 of those run NHRA) Last edited by Brandon Peterson; 04-17-2009 at 02:06 PM.