Crate Motor Class

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Brandon Peterson

stocker 2.....do you cry when a crate motor stocker out qualifies a "traditional" stocker........its just a race if you qualify low who cares

that statement makes me think you may be a bracket racer who just happens to run a class car. Not that there is anything wrong with that. However there are alot of people who take pride in being at the top of the sheet, or at least trying to be. As much as some would like it to be "just a shoe polish race", its not to many people. That's also the same place alot of the sentiment comes from about the crate motors. I'm only 31, but i was brought up around stock and superstock and I wish i had been around "bac when stock was stock" and there was no shoe polish

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Cheating is cheating. Sounds like your circle track's problem isn't the crate motors...

I do agree with your "NHRA Stock Eliminator already has more than enough classes." post, Alan.

I agree that cheating is cheating. That was a response to how great crate motors have been for circle track racing. At the circle tracks, crate motors were brought in to reduce the amount of tech inspection required and "level the playing field". Track operators decided that if the crate motor had the bolts in it, it couldn't be cheated up. It has not worked out that way. I know racers who have been DQ'd over an aftermarket distributor module (no rule against it in the book) when racing against engines everyone knew were cheated up. But you could see the module without removing a "tamper proof" bolt. That is a common thread throughout circle track racing. "Sealed" crate motors have increased cheating and wrecked the playing field, rather than what they were supposed to do.

The problem with more and more classes is that you cannot be everything to everyone, it cannot be done. What you end up with is a circus, and racers and race fans come to race a race or see a race, not a circus. Eventually, the racers and race fans leave, and the circus fans get bored with that particular circus and go look for another one. Thing is, all the racers and race fans have all gone on to something else, so then the racing dies off.

[Bruce Noland]

Brandon, the crate motor classes lose in the polls because the majority of the racers don't want them. Not because of fear.

There are dozens of inexpensive Stock eliminator cars available right now. Buy one and go nhra and IHRA stock eliminator racing. How hard is that?

[Brandon Peterson]

its not hard bruce...my car used to be nhra leagal i just wanted to know why nhra doesn't accept crate motors thats all.....im not saying i would even run nhra if crate motor was allowed its just my opinions verses everyone else...i agree with mike beard,alan,and you there are so many classes in both bodies...all i wanted to know is why all the fuss and stuff over crate mo
tor cars in nhra.....thats all i needed to know

P.S. Alan ive been at the top of the sheet at division races it does feel good...im not a braket racer that just happend to be in a class car... i might not have a amazing career in class racing but i have runnerd up at a national and have won many s/ss combos and plenty of semis and finals in ihra and s/ss combos im only a 3rd year racer in a 40 year racing family...like i said i just wanted to hear reason crate motors not being in nhra

[LNorton]

Brandon, You may as well give up on this one buddy.

These guys are die hards. They probably don't know the crate motor rules either. If you guys paid attention to weight breaks and indexes you would understand why crate motors are at the top of the sheet so easy. A lot of crate motor racers work harder on their combos than traditional class racers. But to most, crate motor and IHRA are the "red headed step child" to most of the NHRA racers.

But this is just the way it will always be. It is just a glorified bracket race with a bunch of hooligans!

[Brandon Peterson]

your right lee, we have put in countless hours on our car and years you know that as well as others do..im just not going to surrender on the subject like they want us ihra racers to......red headed step child for life...buddy

[LNorton]

Originally Posted by Brandon Peterson

red headed step child for life...buddy

Hell Yea!

[KEN BUGAJ]

Originally Posted by Dave Ribeiro

The first think NHRA would do is slap 30-40 HP on all crate motors....Oh, everyone forget how under- factored they are... I don't have a problem with crates but less get real on the HP....Then we would see how they like HP & what it costs......................................... I think we should leave well enough alone.......
If you like to run both build a stock, otherwise keep running the crate motors..
I still think crates are the biggest reason more NHRA cars don't attend IHRA, just look at Q- sheet... Until IHRA factors those motor correctly everything stay the same.. Its all about choices........ .Good Luck in 2009

WOW ! !
Let's see now ,hit them 30/40 hp. yeah that's fair
I see you have a problem running a guy that's racing on a budget..
OH, now it's NHRA cars don't attend because of crate motors ? That's a smart one David
I believe Rockingham last fall had alot of NHRA cars'''You must have missed it..
If you want to run both NHRA & IHRA build another car, yeah like that's a another smart move today
It's all a bracket race when the real race start's....
I'll bet the Crate motor car's are more stock than most of the stocker's..
What stocker ever came with a lap top?

[LNorton]

Originally Posted by KEN BUGAJ

What stocker ever came with a lap top?

Hey now! Without a laptop I cant tune!

[Chris1529]

A little bit of healthy competition is good for everyone isn't it?