Crate Motor Class

[Bob Bender]

Hey Dan, I don't know why you continue to do this you are the most ****ed-up individual I've ever met give it up and NHRA don't want you leave it alone.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Bob Bender

Hey Dan, I don't know why you continue to do this you are the most ****ed-up individual I've ever met give it up and NHRA don't want you leave it alone.

Bob nailed it!!!!

[MAURICE BLENDHEIM]

Sounds like it might be getting close to "Popcorn Time".

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by maurice blendheim

sounds like it might be getting close to "popcorn time".

lol!

[Dave Gantz]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

NHRA should create a new Stock Eliminator Class and keep it Stock
Designed to allow new production cars to compete against each other.
Some new Production cars are running mid 9 sec out of the factory.
Even the L4s and V6s are quicker then most Muscle Cars.
Get back to classic Bolt On Mods.
Which would attract more aftermarket products!

All about the business of earning money and having fun..

D

Dan, you got pretty beat up on here back in December or so. Now you're back with more "ideas".
Assuming your idea took off, how long until your new car stockers are just as, um, "stock" as Stock Eliminator? It's the nature of the beast. The more rules there are, the more "innovation" there will be!

I've been a fan of Stock Eliminator (and a participant for a few years in the 90's) since the early 70's. I don't agree with the way it has gone. But that's what it is! I don't participate!
I would never expect it to change to suit me! That's ridiculous!

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Bob Bender

Hey Dan, I don't know why you continue to do this you are the most ****ed-up individual I've ever met give it up and NHRA don't want you leave it alone.

This........Delusional Dan, NHRA doesn’t want OR need you, at times I am not sure they want any of us.....

[killintime6968]

Mini tubed cars are not stock , 10.5 tire cars are not stock and crate motor cars are not stock. The first two can fit super stock and crate motors can go play in the brackets.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Dave Gantz

Dan, you got pretty beat up on here back in December or so. Now you're back with more "ideas".
Assuming your idea took off, how long until your new car stockers are just as, um, "stock" as Stock Eliminator? It's the nature of the beast. The more rules there are, the more "innovation" there will be!

I've been a fan of Stock Eliminator (and a participant for a few years in the 90's) since the early 70's. I don't agree with the way it has gone. But that's what it is! I don't participate!
I would never expect it to change to suit me! That's ridiculous!

Hey Dave;
I am sure the rules would morph! Most for safety reasons.
Been asked many times by a Racer how to run in Pure Stock.
Was making good headway too getting combinations certified.
IHRA put a stop to it limiting it to 2005 and earlier.
All the local tracks are running them anyway in brackets.
Seems to me this is low hanging fruit NHRA can capitalize on.

I am business guy with a very successful record with every company I worked for.
Plus 25 years in Business with my own company.
Played and formed several competitive soccer teams and created an entire soccer league.

Seems to me creating Show Room Stock would energize Stock.
It was how we got the Jenkins, Stickers, Bannons, and others that built the sport.
We were also impressionable kids with all the hot cars available back then.
Seems it has been forgotten how it got all started!

Otherwise I am good with it if it does not go in my favor!


D

[Mike Schwartz]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

Are there any other differences between an NHRA Stock car and a IHRA Crate Motor Stock car, other than the engine?

Originally Posted by Michael K

One difference is mini tubs and 10.5 inch tires.

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek

You're also allowed minor suspension mods for tire clearance (i.e.: 3/4" offset kit for leaf springs on Mopars.) and you can have a trunk mounted battery without a matching one up front. There were originally a few cars built with springs moved into frame rails, but they were getting away from that as too radical. They also revised other rules shortly after inception that originaly allowed other brand rear ends (i.e: Ford 9" in place of 8 3/4" - sounds like FS!) and tightened up on hood scoop rules to keeping original hole specs & sealed/unsealed configurations, like with "regular" Stock rules. They also allowed replacement aluminum radiators before NHRA did.

Originally Posted by killintime6968

Mini tubed cars are not stock , 10.5 tire cars are not stock and crate motor cars are not stock. The first two can fit super stock and crate motors can go play in the brackets.

What % of cars, that were running Crate Motor classes recently, had taken full advantage of the rules? What % were otherwise NHRA-legal cars that just had an engine swap?

If you put a NHRA-legal 9" tire on a car that still had it's IHRA-allowed mini-tubs and relocated springs, would it have an advantage over a NHRA Stocker?

Is it correct that you can build certain NHRA-legal Stocker engines almost entirely out of aftermarket parts, aside from the intake manifold? (approved replacement block, oil pan, crankshaft, rods, pistons, heads, carburetor/EFI, & ignition, plus all the traditionally replaced components like headers, cam, valve covers, rocker arms etc.).

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

This........Delusional Dan, NHRA doesn’t want OR need you, at times I am not sure they want any of us.....

They don't......Isn't that apparent to you ? They just want your money !